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Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by mikeyouse on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @09:29PM (#26021871)
It’s just completely ahistorical too. Democratic voters picked HRC over Bernie and then they picked Biden over Bernie 4 years later. There was no conspiracy or “party machinery” involved as much as that pains the Bernie wing of the party.

Republican voters overwhelmingly picked Trump - and then turned out millions more in 2020 after they saw what he had done with the Oval Office. Just no remote equivocation between the two parties.

Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @10:00PM (#26022091)
Democratic primary voters were leaning a few points towards Bernie. Then the DNC gave Hillary - and not Bernie - the debate questions in advance. The superdelegates - delegates that didn't come from primaries - also tilted strongly for Hillary. So no, I don't think it's completely ahistorical. It's at least somewhat ahistorical to say that Democratic voters picked HRC over Bernie in 2016. The DNC picked Hillary. The voters? Bernie had the edge, at least before the tilted debate.
Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by mikeyouse on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @11:03PM (#26022433)
Read the actual question that they “tipped” to Hillary - it was literally about lead poisoning in water at a debate in Flint, Michigan.

And read the timeline here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presid...

Bernie never had an edge; he lost 4 of the first 5 contests and finished with nearly 4 million fewer votes. It’s no secret the party apparatus preferred Hillary - to their great detriment given what happened in the general - but it absolutely ahistorical to insist that Bernie was somehow cheated out of anything.

Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by AnimalMuppet on Thursday February 04, 2021 @12:51AM (#26023017)
Hmm. It appears that my memory is faulty.
Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by 8note on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:14AM (#26023640)
It's just right wing propaganda taking its effect.

You remember that the democrats stole the election from Bernie because the GOP wanted democrats to not be excited about voting for hilary, so they spread the message as much as they could

Re:The divide between political parties is smaller than we t... by AnimalMuppet on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:30AM (#26026860)
I don't think it's that simple. I think it was at least as much left-wing propaganda that "Bernie is winning!"