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Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by twicetwice on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:29PM (#26009876)
I'm sorry, what? SpaceX are the undisputed champions of re-lighting engines. They've landed orbital rockets 73+ times, each of which involves multiple engine re-lights while falling through the atmosphere. Let alone gets it wrong "with regularity" — the Falcon 9 Block 5 is a remarkably reliable rocket.

Anyway, landing Starship involves a bunch of things never before attempted: landing a fully-reusable second stage, landing a vehicle of this size, relighting and running engines during the belly-flop-and-flip maneuver, and flying and relighting full-flow staged-combustion engines. Probably some other firsts too.

Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by HarryHirsch on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:36PM (#26009917)
Today's crash was due to failure of one engine to restart. Briz and Fregat Russian upper stages are routinely restarted, with ~ 98 % success, same with Ariane EPS and Chinese Yuanzheng. It's doable, just not for Space-X.
Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by ubercore on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @10:22PM (#26010234)
You realize the Raptor engine is different from the Merlin used in Falcon rockets, right?
Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by CydeWeys on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @11:59PM (#26010745)
You're comparing a prototype against decades-old, non-reusable rockets.
Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by avmich on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @12:19AM (#26010844)
Briz and Fregat start much smaller - 20 kN - engines with no time constraints, while Starship re-lights 2200 kN engine and rocket immediately does rotation by 90+ degrees, and time is of essence.
Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by HarryHirsch on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @01:18AM (#26011108)
Where do thrust and chamber pressure even come into the equation? It's not that the engine exploded, the thing failed to ignite.
Re:SpaceX SN9 Explodes on Landing by avmich on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @02:12AM (#26011344)
> Where do thrust and chamber pressure even come into the equation?

Thrust given to show difference in engine scale. Pressure isn't shown - what do you mean? :)

The point is that re-light of Briz and Fregat is very different and so hard to compare.