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Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by TheCoelacanth on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:17PM (#26007692)
That's crazy! How are they losing so much money on such a high-margin business?

AWS and Azure are basically printing money.

Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by raiyu on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:31PM (#26007895)
I’m sure they are still heavily investing in CapEx given their growth.

You have to remember that AWS had a more linear path so capex investment was spread out over a longer time line. Meanwhile Google had to rebuild all of AWS infra and capacity basically over night.

That coupled with high revenue growth leads to a large loss in the build out years. As revenue increase YoY slows down that loss will begin to narrow.

Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by QuinnyPig on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @10:14PM (#26010167)
Generally capex won’t hit the Cloud division explicitly; this is something else. Hmm.
Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by anonacct38 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:12PM (#26008361)
Same reason Amazon didn't show a profit for years. Just means they are continuing to spend more than they make in an effort to grow and to find those killer apps and services that will make them the dominant player.
Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by influx on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:29PM (#26007867)
From what I hear they are giving out sweetheart deals to large customers that aren't making money, but hey they can claim to run "X" company's cloud instances.
Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by hehehaha on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:47PM (#26008087)
My guess is they’re giving away a lot for free. Firebase free tier is almost too generous.
Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by silexia on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @05:35PM (#26007945)
Google has a reputation issue here: no one wants to build serious products on it's platforms since it killed so many products in the past.

Legacy support sucks, but if you don't support your old products people won't trust your new ones.

Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by anonacct38 on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:09PM (#26008330)
They do have a reputation issue, and it does cost them some business. There are CTOs who basically won't touch a google product in beta because there are so many things that get pulled.

That being said they are good at running vms and storage. They are really good at running kubernetes. Their network is amazing.

Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by kevincox on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @06:29PM (#26008566)
> There are CTOs who basically won't touch a google product in beta because there are so many things that get pulled.

That is literally the point of calling it beta and why beta Google Cloud products have a different deprecation policy.

Re:Google Cloud lost $5.61B on $13.06B revenue last year by cett on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @01:06AM (#26011056)
I would find it hard to take a CTO seriously who can't differentiate between beta and "generally available", or consumer product and enterprise cloud product.

It's a bit like saying you wouldn't use AWS because of Fire Phone.