I'm tired of this anti-Wayland horseshit

Re:I'm tired of this anti-Wayland horseshit by cheaprentalyeti on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @10:58AM (#26002512)

You're dancing around the problem: Wayland works (such as it is) by offloading functionality that was part of X to the desktop software like gnome or kde and then saying "but that's not our problem!" when something breaks. Never mind that program collection 'A' (including X11) was working and program colleciton 'B' (the Wayland way) wasn't.

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Re:I'm tired of this anti-Wayland horseshit by dralley on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @02:51PM (#26005683)

That's just it, Xorg did tons of things that it never should have been involved with. It used to have a print server FFS.

Wayland is trying to do one thing well, whereas Xorg did many things poorly. It's valid to feel frustration that the community doesn't coordinate to put those APIs in place, but it's very much not valid to blame Wayland developers for it.

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Re:I'm tired of this anti-Wayland horseshit by DCKing on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:12PM (#26009786)

> You're dancing around the problem

Please be a little bit more charitable: I'm very candid about the usability problems on the Linux desktop, I'm just telling people where they need to send their time, money and concerns to fix it.

> "but that's not our problem!" when something breaks.

Which is the entire point of getting rid of X11. Wayland is a display protocol and does not intend to solve all of the problems that X11 ended up solving, same as the display stack in any OS designed after 1990 (like Windows, Mac OS X, BeOS, Android and ChromeOS) do not solve these problems either.

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