As stubborn as you think those people are, they have a good case for arguing that you are just as stubborn if not more so.

Are you sure?

I don’t know. It helped me to view it as “yes, this is selfish. They’re more important to me than the topic.”

The reason they’re talking is to feel good with themselves (as we all are). But asking someone to explain a tricky subject throws that off, doesn’t it?

Another way to phrase it: why care so much what they think? If they don’t explain themselves, then they probably don’t care whether you agree.

To reframe the question a bit, what do you feel you would get out of it if they explained their belief structure to you? (Explain your belief about this, ha.)

Looking at the things you wrote:

> They’re more important to me than the topic.

Why does it mean one is selfish, when _a topic_ (not oneself) is more important to oneself than that other person?

> The reason they’re talking is to feel good with themselves (as we all are). But asking someone to explain a tricky subject throws that off, doesn’t it?

Perhaps. But the interpretation is still not immediately "selfishness" for me. You are not there to please them and make them feel good. But how does that immediately become "selfish"?

> To reframe the question a bit, what do you feel you would get out of it if they explained their belief structure to you? (Explain your belief about this, ha.)

Yes, that is a good introspective question, that one maybe should ask oneself.

However, if anything that could somehow be interpreted as "wanting something for oneself" is considered selfish, then we can shut down all our media right now and stop talking to everyone else. You can always claim "You did this or that conversation only to feel good about yourself! So Selfish!"

So I am asking: What is your definition of selfishness?

You care about the topic, they don't want to talk about it for whatever reason. You are trying to get them to do something they don't like, because _you_ like it.