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Re:Nvidia's quad-core Kal-El demos next-gen mobile graphics,... by nextparadigms on Monday May 30, 2011 @12:08PM (#2599717)
Intel won't have an Atom at 22nm until late 2013. By then Tegra 5 should be out, which who knows with how many Cortex A15 cores, at 28 nm. In 2014, ARM chip makers will move to 20 nm.

Intel's advantage is only of about 1 processing node generation, but that's not even for Atom right now. It's only for their highest end chips. Current Atom is at 45 nm, and it will move to 32nm next year, when ARM chips will be at 28nm. But this doesn't even matter anyway. Even if Intel was 2 processing nodes ahead, ARM would still be more efficient.

Re:Nvidia's quad-core Kal-El demos next-gen mobile graphics,... by sitkack on Monday May 30, 2011 @08:44PM (#2600868)
Intel will stop making bricks (metaphor) and skip 28nm and go directly to 20nm for Atom. It is their only hope to get into mobile, even then it will be a weak value prop as the entire mobile market will be on an ARM ISA.

Even though the whole dev chain is slightly more flexible to an ISA change, Intel will still be slighty x86ed out of the market only they will be on the other side of the fence this time.

Intel won't run on the phones, but they might, if they play their cards right run on tablets and netbooks.

It really does suck to be the 900 Lb gorilla.

Re:Nvidia's quad-core Kal-El demos next-gen mobile graphics,... by nl on Monday May 30, 2011 @09:48PM (#2600996)
Actually, Intel is moving Atom to 14nm (!) in 2014: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-14nm-atom-chip-in-2...

ARM chips are only (notably) more efficient when they slower. If you compare like vs like it's not as simple. Eg, 2 GHz ARM A9's are roughly more as powerful as a 1.8 GHz Atom, and have similar power budgets (leaving aside Intel's pathetic chipset & graphics support for now)