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Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by KaoruAoiShiho on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:08PM (#25995399)
The UI is worse as you need to make yet another account and pay for steam. That experience is terrible enough to kill the thing for a non-gamer.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by p1necone on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:20PM (#25995972)
Do you really think "non-gamers" are going to be converted by this? At this point if you're a "non-gamer" it isn't for lack of availability.

You seem to be using "non-gamer" as a synonym for "too inexperienced to use basic modern technology", which I don't think is a widespread problem outside of age ranges that didn't grow up with the internet. A much bigger group is surely just people that aren't that interested in video games. (Unless you think Stadia is actually going after the geriatric market, which seems short sighted.)

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by KaoruAoiShiho on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:26PM (#25996019)
Just go read /r/stadia or the /r/games thread covering this, yes people are convinced by this and there's many comments talking about how they can't stand the UX on GFN.

Too inexperienced to use technology is a strawman, the real comparison is do they prefer the benefit of the better UX more than they fear the amorphous dangers of lock-in. The answer is easily yes.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by oivey on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:44PM (#25996162)
Do a handful of posts on the tiny Stadia subreddit justify the massive investment Google has made to create yet another App Store? Is the market of people who use Apple Mail because they don’t know how to register a Gmail account large and profitable enough for them to justify the investment?

The problem isn’t just lock in. There are also less games on Stadia. The lack of available games is directly due to Google’s strategy of recreating yet another App Store.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by enos_feedler on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:13PM (#25996387)
There are less games on Stadia because we are just over 1 year into a 10 year platform growth story. Just because Google is Google doesn't mean they don't suffer from the same chicken and egg problems that startups have. Especially when the market is over 1T and has incumbents like MSFT and sony. Give it time.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by p1necone on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:16PM (#25996406)
All the other gaming platforms have Fortnite (or insert other popular game) on them, why not Stadia?
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by enos_feedler on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:55PM (#25996636)
Because Stadia is 1 years old
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by enos_feedler on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:11PM (#25996368)
Actually, yes. I am a professional investor with a product-driven thesis. Sub-reddits are one of the most honest, representative samples for the quality and love for a product by the market. I bet millions on this.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by p1necone on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:18PM (#25996418)
I'd get some of your Stadia feedback from outside the Stadia subreddit specifically - it seems to either be filled with sycophants, or has a mod team that removes anything negative (or both). Sentiment elsewhere on reddit is completely different.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by enos_feedler on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @03:27AM (#25998520)
Do you have a recommendation?
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by oivey on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:16PM (#25995466)
It’s maybe a tiny bit worse, but describing it as terrible is a pretty extraordinary stretch. Google is fucked if the entire business model of Stadia, requiring massive investment in hardware, software, and content, depends on consumers being too stupid to link an account between app stores.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by KaoruAoiShiho on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:47PM (#25995737)
Slightly better UX is the raison d'etre of companies like sony, apple, zoom, slack, etc. It matters a lot.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by oivey on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:07PM (#25995887)
The level of inconvenience is on the same level as having to log into Gmail on my iPhone. That doesn’t stop me from using Gmail or buying an iPhone. UX matters a lot, but not that much.

Steam is free by the way, since I guess I didn’t point that out in my last post. You just have to buy the games, same as Stadia.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by KaoruAoiShiho on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @09:21AM (#26001214)
Nah, I need to type in my password every single time into steam. My password manager doesn't work. Since I have a very long password, it's almost impossible for me to play GFN.