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Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by KLexpat on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:19PM (#25985148)
Despite what western media outlets say, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Military juntas are often a good/restorative part of government in countries like Thailand and Myanmar, and are well received by the general public.

Doesn't mesh well with washington kissinger pastiche though

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by apsec112 on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:21PM (#25985161)
The public voted overwhelmingly in favor of Aung San Suu Kyi and against the military in the most recent elections:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Myanmar_general_election

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Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by dang on Monday February 01, 2021 @01:39AM (#25986226)
We've banned this account for using HN repeatedly for flamewar and ignoring repeated requests to stop. That's an abuse of the site and not cool at all.

No, we don't support genocide. We're just trying to have an internet forum not destroy itself.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by Clewza313 on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:53PM (#25985346)
The military that just took power is the one that's been committing that genocide.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by myWindoonn on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:53PM (#25985349)
No, the Rohingya genocide [0] is not backed by the public, but is backed by the same military junta which has just now seized power.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide

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Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by l8again on Sunday January 31, 2021 @11:29PM (#25985540)
> Aung San Suu Kyi has never been racist

"But her personal defence of the army's actions at the ICJ hearing last year in the Hague was seen as a new turning point that obliterated what little remained of her international reputation." [1] from this article itself.

"No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim" [2]

Will admit that I am not very familiar with Myanmar politics, but the above sentence from the article seems to indicate the opposite. Now, it is entirely possible that she was forced to do that due to military pressure at home. Also, I have an allergic reaction to statements made that "everyone speaks in favor of an X leader" anywhere. I am pretty sure the Rohingyas aren't all that in favor of her, even though they have no good options any way.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11685977

[2] https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11306856/aung-san-suu-kyi-musl... (edited for clarity)

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by treis on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:26PM (#25985198)
Military rule has been a complete and utter disaster for Myanmar. It's one of the poorest countries in the world, brutal repression, ethnic cleansing, isolation, the list goes on. There is nothing at all to redeem it.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by nayaketo on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:05AM (#25985732)
I'm from Nepal. We're next doors to Myanmar. We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda but Myanmar is still richer than us. The disagreements of democratically elected leaders has been the main cause of political instability for us for more than a decade now.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by rational_indian on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:19AM (#25985792)
> We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda

Most middle-eastern countries do not have this either...

> but Myanmar is still richer than us.

but I am willing to bet they are richer than both Nepal and Myanmar. It seems what Myanmar has over Nepal is natural resources, (just like the middle eastern countries). This is nothing to be proud of.

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by nayaketo on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:04AM (#25987921)
We are blessed in other ways too. We have a huge hydroelectricity potential that we haven't tapped fully. The problem is that people are insanely xenophobic and foreign investment is derided as "selling out to foreigners" here. Existing rules make it a nightmare for prospective foreign investors. There's not much capital inside to invest on our own natural resources.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by treis on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:33AM (#25985848)
Autocracy followed by a Maoist revolution isn't a path to success either.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by nayaketo on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:58AM (#25987888)
Don't know what you're getting at. There's no autocracy in Nepal (at least not yet). The Maoists won a free and fair election (Socialism is just that popular here). At most the country is super-duper and insanely socialistic, with government owning multiple large monopolies. Unless you call yourself a "socialist" you won't be winning any elections here. Unfortunately there is no pro-business/capitalistic political party in Nepal and that is what I sincerely believe is lacking here.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by koheripbal on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:54AM (#25988684)
The civil war only 15 years ago between the Monarchy and the Socialists.

China has a heavy influence in Nepal, and the tourist trade gives everyone a bad taste for Western anything.

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by koheripbal on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:51AM (#25988659)
Nepal's current economic state is a product of the civil war that only ended 15 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_Civil_War

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by chunsj on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:05AM (#25986339)
Freedom alone is not democracy; that's just liberalism. Social justice, economic equality and others including political power control from people are important part of democracy.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by koheripbal on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:56AM (#25988692)
"Social justice" is such an ambiguous term that too often is associated with intolerance and online hate.

I would agree with your statement otherwise.

Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by nayaketo on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:50AM (#25987842)
BTW, turnover for elections in Nepal is really high. Always upwards of 70%. If that isn't democracy, then I don't know what is.
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by nayaketo on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:49AM (#25987834)
We'll never achieve democracy if you keep on redefining it now will we?
Re:Military seizes control in Myanmar by koheripbal on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:48AM (#25988624)
From their perspective - they have kept the nation united rather than have the North split off.

It's a terrible reason, but that is their justification.

Conflict with the Northern provinces have been a constant for decades.