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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by Raidion on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:43PM (#25975674)
You get those 73 engineers in a room, then what? What do they write? You get 15 engineers, 3 DBAs, 5 sys admins + their managers. While that's spinning up, you get a bunch of business analyists to write the requirements. A first version gets written, it doesn't do what people want and the data it works from is really crappy, so you have to write a bunch of custom edge logic to deal with the crappy data. Repeat several times, including massive changes in scope.

Like is there bloat on these projects? 100%, and a lot of it, but saying "just get 73 solid engineers in a room" doesn't really get you very far when the requirements are really really unknown.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by throwaway3699 on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:14PM (#25975868)
Requirements gathering is part of the job. Maybe more of a PM role but still something we all should be able to tackle.
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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by raverbashing on Sunday January 31, 2021 @05:33AM (#25977767)
Ideally the requirements gathering wouldn't be a pile of tick boxes.

Get them to sit next to the users (especially UI/UX) and see how the process happen. Ask questions. See how data entry people work.

(Ideally. In the real world it will be a very thorny and boring process)

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by JamesSwift on Sunday January 31, 2021 @11:19AM (#25979855)
Yes, and in the process of that discovery it turns out the "process" is 100 different processes for 100 different people. One person performs data entry by faxing a handwritten list of excel data. One person just tells the current DBA what to put into the DB. One person uses a homegrown webapp that some intern built to automate some of their process.

"This is asinine!" you say. "Just make sure you dont break our existing workflow" they reply.

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