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Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by kortilla on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:20PM (#25975523)
> Is this true if you also consider maintenance

Yes, I think you’re vastly overestimating how much these things cost. A $15k car might need a $100/year in oil changes, and then like $500 in service every $30k miles or so. The most expensive part is probably replacing tires, which is common to the electric car as well.

All of the maintenance on ICE cars gets bad in that 120k miles+ range. But at that point you’ve had to replace the battery on your Tesla, which almost buys you another new $15k car.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by blendergeek on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:11PM (#25975841)
Do you have a source for these numbers? According to AAA [0] (and my experience), the average cost of car maintenance is upwards of $1000/year.

Also its more than just oil that electric cars don't need replaaced. Electric cars don't have transmissions and rarely ever use the brakes two more leading causes of both regular maintenance and costly repairs of ICE cars.

[0] https://www.thebalance.com/average-car-maintenance-cost-4775...

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by SECProto on Sunday January 31, 2021 @12:02AM (#25976144)
Not OP, but I can pluralize his anecdata. I've had my car for 9 years (~120k miles - sat rarely driven for a couple years in the middle). The only maintenance I've had is oil changes (2 or 3 times a year, so $100 estimate seems accurate), brake pads (once or maybe twice? average annual cost maybe $50), engine air filter (like $10, once or twice a year), tires (similar with electric - cheaper for my car with 15" wheels). The only unexpected maintenance was an electric short in the windshield wiper (could happen just as easily to an electric. $100 labour and a $30 part from a scrap yard)
Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by chrisseaton on Sunday January 31, 2021 @08:40AM (#25978732)
> 2 or 3 times a year

That seems massively excessive oil changing for your mileage.

Fun fact - the same car manufacturers tell British people to change their oil every 21k miles or 24 months, and tell American people to change their oil every 3k miles or 6 months. For literally the same car, being driven in potentially identical conditions.

Americans are just changing their oil needlessly! And they have a whole industry of ‘oil change shops’ you don’t get in many other countries to do the needless work! Bonkers!

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by SECProto on Sunday January 31, 2021 @09:20AM (#25978991)
I follow the manufacturer's suggested interval of 8000km. The same car supposedly has a longer interval in Japan (16000km), but using a different engine and definitely different operating conditions. It's just not enough of a cost or hassle for me to bother deviating from the recommendations.

I do happily ignore the oil change shop stickers that say it should be changed in 3 months/5000km.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by kortilla on Sunday January 31, 2021 @02:53AM (#25977005)
Biggest part of their quote is tires, which apply to the electric cars as well.

1k a year is absolutely insane. That must scale up with expensive cars. A new battery, new brake pads, and and windshield wipers don’t even come near 1k and you don’t even have to replace any of those annually.

Re:Electric cars are coming fast – is the nation’s grid up t... by ogre_codes on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:29PM (#25975963)
> But at that point you’ve had to replace the battery on your Tesla

This isn't true. Typically after 100k miles Teslas lose about 5-10% capacity. I suppose if you are bumping into that limit a lot, it might be a problem, but it would make far more sense to sell your current car and buy a new one at that point. You could get decent resale value out of it because lots of people would be perfectly happy with a Tesla with a 280 mile range versus 310 miles.

There are Teslas out there that have clocked over 300k miles and still have more than 70% of their rated range. Again, even if the current owner has an issue with ~200 miles range, selling a Tesla with a 200 mile range won't be a big problem.