CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abandoned due to bugs

Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by pxeboot on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:06PM (#25975415)

And don't forget the State of Oregon paid an additional $240 million for their own version of it [1].

[1] https://www.koin.com/news/oregon-oracle-settle-cover-oregon-...

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by mraza007 on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:35PM (#25975616)

Wow I’m amazed like how much money can made if you are into government contracting

I’m just curious to know can you get government contracts let’s say if you are running a software agency

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by alasdair_ on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:50PM (#25975716)

A lot of “government contracting” is having people whose job it is to find the people that can authorize a sale and then hand-hold them through all the paperwork needed for them to actually make the sale.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by dreamcompiler on Sunday January 31, 2021 @12:47AM (#25976398)

This. Gov contracting is a rare, specialized skill. That's why the same big companies keep getting big contracts over and over. If you're a company without these skills you have no chance at landing one of the giant contracts. The CYA and auditing requirements are too insane to even write the proposal without a full-time staff of contracting specialists and a long track record of prior contracting.

(As a new contractor you might be able to get a small-money contract from e.g. the SBIR but those max out at roughly $100K.)

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by Zenst on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:42PM (#25975665)

Yes, how to apply and secure governmental contracts and grants is something many educational curriculum miss out upon in life.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by hertzrat on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:40PM (#25976022)

How does the process work?

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by raverbashing on Sunday January 31, 2021 @03:58AM (#25977268)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_...

This is the overview, there are other websites that go more into the details if you google it

But basically it is survival of the most boring and the most detailistic. Then of course you lose the tender because you weren't "in the know", or you missed the requirements of the Toilet Procurement acts of 1974 which specified the thickness and traction resistance of toilet paper used in government purchases.

Oh and if you're "lucky" your Health contract management software will suddenly have to be able to order pizza as well, you know, it's "just an extra thing". But you won't get paid while that doesn't happen (ok this might not apply to the USA specifically, but you get the idea)

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by xondono on Sunday January 31, 2021 @09:12AM (#25978931)

In most countries it works by having a buddy making the choices

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by selimthegrim on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:22AM (#25979440)

I met a manager of this once. She told me Oracle hired anyone with a college degree (hers was English) for her job because “managing developers isn’t that hard, you just have to keep track of milestones etc”

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by canofbars on Sunday January 31, 2021 @12:14AM (#25976218)

Because governments outsource everything possible and end up with no persistent talent that really understands whats going on so you end up spending all the money on interfacing with contractors.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by petarb on Sunday January 31, 2021 @01:11AM (#25976521)

What if the government had an internal technology division to build things like this

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by ric2b on Sunday January 31, 2021 @11:41AM (#25980023)

Nah, there are more important things like spaceforce /s

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by aweiland on Sunday January 31, 2021 @05:56PM (#25983444)

They can't afford to get the talent on the GS schedule.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by tzs on Sunday January 31, 2021 @12:32AM (#25976323)

My recollection of prior HN discussions is that a large part of it was that it involved interfacing to systems in a large number of agencies or departments. Most of those systems were old systems, independently developed systems, that had not been designed to have APIs for other agencies to use (or had not been designed to have APIs at all).

I think it might also have had to interface to state systems in the states that were not running their own ACA exchanges, and to the systems of numerous insurance companies.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by rtx on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:09PM (#25975830)

It's possible if some money is flowing back to the people approving the deal.

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by seshagiric on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:50PM (#25976082)

Was it built by Deloitte too?

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Re:CDC website built by Deloitte at a cost of $44M is abando... by fmakunbound on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:56PM (#25976110)

No, it was CGI Federal (mentioned in the article)

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