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Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by TeMPOraL on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:13AM (#25969688)
The article is not about that. It's about words which have a high probability of spinning off a tangential flamewar.

I posted it because I think this happens very frequently on HN - long and unproductive backs-and-forths that only exist because someone used a "landmine" word, and someone else stepped on it.

Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by unanswered on Saturday January 30, 2021 @01:05PM (#25971316)
And so we're not allowed to figure out what constitutes truth, and instead have to just take your definition by default? Sorry, but I can't get anything else out of this. Ignoring these landmines only benefits someone trying to sell you something on the basis of deceitful values of the landmine variables.
Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by AnimalMuppet on Saturday January 30, 2021 @06:37PM (#25974182)
TeMPOraL said exactly nothing that said that you aren't allowed to figure out what constitutes truth. You're reading that into his post.
Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by pseudoramble on Saturday January 30, 2021 @08:16PM (#25974763)
Your post got me thinking a bit. I see what you mean but I think it’s not the kind of thing the article is talking about. I should point out that I’m assuming conversations here are in the minutes-hours timeframe, not weeks-months timeframes.

My take on this is that it isn’t an issue of whether you can discuss truth or not, but rather if it’s philosophically relevant to the conversation. What I mean by that, and what I think the article means, is that the person isn’t questioning the meaning of truth really but instead avoiding the discussion going really any further by throwing out a catch phrase which is pertinent in a very distant and vague sense, but the person has no real intent to go into it.

It’s sort of seems like a form of “whataboutism” where somebody counters a point by going “Yeah but what about truth?!” It effectively ends the conversation because it’s not a matter of agreeing on the meaning of truth in the context of the discussion, but more of a distraction which can never be fully answered which stalls the original discussion.

Maybe in context those specific definitions do matter and should be stated assumptions, but often I don’t think they are. In addition, it truth or morals can’t be pinned down in centuries of effort, how could they be in these kinds of conversations? I don’t believe they could.

Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by jschveibinz on Saturday January 30, 2021 @11:09AM (#25970171)
I understand, but I respectfully disagree. In your response you used words like “about that”, “high probability”, “frequently” and “unproductive,” all of which could be argued on a philosophical basis.

And by the way, if you are going to post things and then downvote legitimate responses—then perhaps you need to rethink things a bit?

Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by dang on Saturday January 30, 2021 @01:49PM (#25971756)
Whoa, please don't cross into personal attack, and omit swipes from your comments here.

TeMPOraL didn't downvote you. He couldn't. No one can downvote replies to their own posts (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25969116 was probably downvoted because it broke these guidelines:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Philosophical Landmines (2013) by ineedasername on Saturday January 30, 2021 @07:48PM (#25974603)
I downvoted you because your comment didn't add substance by explaining what you meant. You made a statement that didn't seem to apply to article I read, which is fine in itself, but its brevity meant there was no way to evaluate what you meant, yet it seemed unnecessarily combative & overall unproductive to the conversation.