Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by mbrodersen on Sunday January 31, 2021 @08:31PM
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DeepMind is European. ARM is European. The best chip manufacturing companies are in Taiwan. The best car makers are in Europe. The #1 shipping line (Maersk) is in Europe. The language we are speaking right now is European. The modern corporation, including shares, was invented in Europe. Alan Turing was European. Do I really need to go on?
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by turbonaut on Saturday January 30, 2021 @06:15AM
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> Take A.I., for instance: completely dominated by the U.S. and China. Europe?
DeepMind?
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by kleiba on Saturday January 30, 2021 @06:28AM
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Alphabet is not a university.
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by quonn on Saturday January 30, 2021 @06:47AM
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Alphabet bought it. But it‘s a direct result of university research with the same people. Just check the field of reinforcement learning.
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by kleiba on Saturday January 30, 2021 @08:46AM
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True, but a singular example does not save the continent.
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday January 30, 2021 @10:59AM
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The first place Facebook opened an AI research centre was Paris.
They certainly didn't pick it for the food ;)
I think if you look at where the researchers are, Europe does really well. As per usual though, this is poorly commercialised.
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by thethought on Saturday January 30, 2021 @01:58PM
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In France software companies classify software development as R&d which I think has major tax upside for US companies with RD in France.
Re:University of Leicester firing all pure math faculty
by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday January 31, 2021 @02:46AM
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Let's be clear. They set up the office in Paris because Yann LeCunn had really good colleagues and students there.
This would seem to militate against a notion that Europe doesn't do AI.
Now, Europe definitely doesn't commercialise AI well, but that's a different point.
However, are you sure that these advances would not have been made if the US had a different system? Like I argued before, Europe has pretty much copied the system by now but I don't see much in terms of catching up. Take A.I., for instance: completely dominated by the U.S. and China. Europe?
Like in many things in life, copying someone else's successful model is by no means a guarantee that you're going to be successful too. Why? Because your circumstances are usually completely different from whatever you're copying.