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Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday January 29, 2021 @06:26PM (#25964202)
>> Loeb was a once-respected scientist who made important contributions to astrophysics and cosmology, particularly when it came to black holes and the first stars. But his work on extraterrestrial signatures continues to be largely unappreciated by the community — a position as justifiable as ignoring the comparable idea of Russell’s teapot — and rather than address their scientific objections, he’s stopped listening to other astronomers entirely, instead choosing to try his scientific case in the most unscientific place imaginable: the court of public opinion.

This is an attack piece that targets Avi Loeb's character. It's disturbing that the author of the piece is himself an astrophycisist and I have to wonder, if Avi Loeb is calling upon the court of public opinion, what else is this piece, published in Forbes rather than a science venue, doing exactly?

Science is a debate. For there to be a debate, there have to be differing opinions. And for there to be differing opinions, there has to be the freedom of scientists to express their opinions. Even poorly supported opinions like Avi Loeb's. What hurts science is bombastic invocations of "the large amounts of research done by other professionals who specialize in this particular field" - as an attempt to stiffle an opionion the author is not fond of with an appeal to authority.

Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by KingFelix on Friday January 29, 2021 @07:31PM (#25964705)
I agree and no longer read his articles, and I don't think he provides any value. He often uses statements like this to attack targets, he did the same thing with the last article that came across my news feed for Roger Penrose.

>>Hundreds of scientists have pointed this out to Penrose — repeatedly and consistently over a period of more than 10 years — who continues to ignore the field and plow ahead with his contentions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2021/01/28/the-...

Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by thewakalix on Friday January 29, 2021 @08:49PM (#25965213)
I think you may have meant to link to this page instead?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/10/08/no-r...

Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by KingFelix on Sunday January 31, 2021 @02:06AM (#25976777)
Yes! Thank you, copy pasted wrong tab
Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by jula432vdf on Friday January 29, 2021 @09:06PM (#25965286)
I don't think many realize the seriousness of the situation. If the asteroid is just a rock, nothing happens, everything is just fine, we can continue to be the apex predator of Sol system.

But if anybody is wrong and oumuamua was in fact an alien device looking for us (intelligent life), almost certainly it has found us. What happens next is entirely out of human hands, unless we can realize that event.

Maybe is nothing more than some kind of probe or long range satellite, but it could be a scout ship, or an early warning sensor, and we're just in course to meet the rest of the hardware from where oumuamua came from.

Is really rational just plainly deny the chance of that rock being pure luck of not having found a big fleet of some interestellar things and having to figure out if they are friendly or not as they approach the planet?

Probably the space force and the whole stuff many countries are sending to all the solar system since 2018 are just a coincidence, or may be other people is also worried about what happens next if oumuamua was not just a weird rock.

Re:The Uncensored Guide to ‘Oumuamua, Aliens, and That Harva... by wcoenen on Saturday January 30, 2021 @06:32AM (#25968263)
> What happens next is entirely out of human hands, unless we can realize that event.

We would not have been able to detect this object two decades ago. So the "event" is that our observation capabilities have grown past some threshold, not that anything has changed in our solar system. Whether rocks or alien probes, these types of objects must always have been passing through our solar system with some regularity. We'll get a a chance to study others soon enough.

Edit: this video by Scott Manley helps to get a sense of how our ability to detect asteroids has grown over time: https://youtu.be/BKKg4lZ_o-Y