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Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by dalbasal on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:23AM (#25941418)
It's a pity there isn't more action in the e ink application/device world. Seems like there's so much potential. I'd love a kindle-like laptop for writing.

I guess it's just extremely hard to compete for a beachhead against an incumbent (mobile touch displays) that's more general and mass produced.

Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by KMnO4 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @09:22AM (#25942098)
My understanding is that it’s heavily controlled by E-Ink (the company). When only 1 company can make the displays and they charge quite a bit of money for them, adoption will always be difficult.

Once the patent expires I expect these to be used everywhere.

Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by robinsoh on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:07PM (#25952167)
> When only 1 company can make the displays

It sounds true but it is inaccurate. E-Ink doesn't even make the displays. They just make the material used in the displays. The actual displays are made by sandwiching the material on TFT and other parts. The displays are made by a whole bunch of different Taiwanese vendors like AU Optronics, and others and then there's a large ecosystem over laminating them with touchscreens, different types of protective hydrobarriers and other things. The reason the panels cost more than LCDs is because the volume is not high. Go ahead, make an order for 10 million panels and specify the price like apple does, and you'll find all these manufacturers jumping to increase their production scale in order to meet your target price.

> Once the patent expires I expect these to be used everywhere.

Again, this keeps getting repeated everywhere but it is totally wrong. There's a simple question you can ask. Which patent needs to expire? The lazy answer you'll get is all 700 patents. But in reality it is not a patent that is blocking things. It is simple. Money. Would you invest hundreds of millions needed in trying to scale, improve or invent a new display technology? Or would you invest in a hot new AI/ML startup? There's your answer. For further proof, google all the dead display startup companies, to show what's really blocking the world from having a great new display technology.

Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by 1-6 on Friday January 29, 2021 @05:04AM (#25955781)
Interesting. I guess we can blame the lack of e-ink devices on the display technologies which are being developed (oled, microled, ips, tn, etc). E-ink has a limited purpose while color/fast updating displays have more use potential in various industries and products. Don’t get me wrong, I love e-ink. It’s just that even in the case of displays, winner takes all.
Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by jbarrow on Thursday January 28, 2021 @08:31AM (#25941506)
In terms of a Kindle-like laptop for writing, I’ve seen people enjoy the Freewrite Traveler (though it’s not for me):

[1] https://getfreewrite.com/products/freewrite-traveler

Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by mleonhard on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:29PM (#25949540)
That is a very opinionated writing tool. It has no arrow keys. Does it support editing, or only writing?
Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by dalbasal on Thursday January 28, 2021 @10:13AM (#25942983)
I'm skeptical about the narrow horizontal screen. I'd actually prefer in oriented the vertically for writing.
Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by cmiller1 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @10:47AM (#25943658)
Would love this jailbroken, a text dedicated device would be wonderful for coding, terminal emulation, even e-mail.
Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by as_ on Thursday January 28, 2021 @01:26PM (#25946438)
Re:Show HN: Low-power Kindle-based dashboard by cmiller1 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @01:52PM (#25946960)
While that does look nice it lacks what I consider the killer feature of the above device: e-ink display, and with it the benefits of reduced eye strain and enhanced battery life.