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Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by jsight on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:36PM (#25931135)
To be fair, now (8 years after the first superchargers), Electrify America supports plug and charge. Because of this, the experience with the Mach-E is really close to that of supercharging.

There's still a gap, but its much smaller now and EA is even ahead in some areas.

Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by rconti on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:02PM (#25932332)
How does EA station status work? Do the latest EVs have a way of pulling realtime availability data from the network, or do you have to use a phone app? (Or is it not possible at all?)

IMO, more important than catching up to Tesla's headstart in total number of chargers, is just to have reliable station information before you arrive. This doesn't have to work on every network-- just enough of them to trust the system. I won't say it's trivial, but it should be fairly easy to work towards. Each network needs to have a way of exposing charger status, and the vehicles need the software to query them. Again, they don't need to support every single possible charger vendor, but the more the better.

The user won't (usually) care if they are unaware of a few chargers they could have used, but they want data on the ones they plan to use, and they want that data to be accurate.

Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by wmf on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:43PM (#25935171)
The Electrify America app doesn't even show accurate status.
Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by hnburnsy on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:06PM (#25931551)
See my other post in this thread specifically about the Mustang and Electrify America. Looks like they have a way to go.
Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by thatfrenchguy on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:47PM (#25932149)
It's pretty obvious looking at their current volume of charging that ElectrifyAmerica is clearly in beta mode right now, targeting mostly enthusiasts.

I've done ~40-50 sessions with them and I never got stranded, but I've had to move the car to the next charger like half the time. Good thing they're putting 4 to 8 stalls at each station.

Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by jsight on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @03:13PM (#25933305)
In my area, most of their installations are 4 stall. IMO, this is a mistake, as they have already had multiple holidays in which entire sites were taken offline. I suspect that over time they will move to 8+ stall installations as it greatly reduces the odds of a complete site outage.

The good thing is that they appear to be collecting data in real time and seem to have really direct insight into which manufacturers are consistently producing the highest reliability.

Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by Reason077 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:11PM (#25935459)
Yes, though presumably their strategy is to build as many sites as possible as quickly as possible. Then come back and do upgrades/infill to sites that need it once they have a better understanding of demand and reliability.
Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by jsight on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:26PM (#25931841)
Yeah, the recent cannonball run in a Taycan (Search Out of Spec Motoring if you want to see the details) had some similar issues.

In particular, the Mach-E seems to be struggling with low charge rates. However, that review is a press vehicle and was technically preproduction. I have yet to see someone knowledgeable going through the details with an actual customer delivered vehicle.

Re:Tesla’s charging stations left other manufacturers in the... by Reason077 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:09PM (#25935442)
> "Yeah, the recent cannonball run in a Taycan (Search Out of Spec Motoring if you want to see the details) had some similar issues."

However, despite those issues, they were still able set the electric cannonball record in the Taycan, beating the previous record (set by the same guys in a Tesla Model 3) by nearly an hour!

That's because the Taycan charges much faster on EA's 350 kW chargers than a Tesla does on a typical Tesla supercharger. (It might be a different story if Tesla had more of the new faster "V3" superchargers, but there are only a few of those on the Cannonball route).