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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by thewarrior on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:30AM (#25929374)
As an Indian dev these stories about how coding bootcamps are disrupting education make me smile. This business model has already been tested and scaled in India. It’s called Infosys, Wipro and TCS and the 150 billion dollar Indian IT services industry.

They operate like coding bootcamps. They hire tens of thousands of random grads, put them through a “bootcamp” of six months and contract them out to Fortune 500 firms. They also have these kinds of exit clauses where you have to pay them if you quit early. These people often have no CS backgrounds.

These bootcamps will also end up shifting to India and turning into outsourcing firms. Nothing more nothing less. It can absolutely work and be huge but as you scale the quality drops and it’s not a panacea.

If I were the lambda school CEO I’d just start a remote first outsourcing firm in India and cut to the chase.

If I were an IT service company CEO I’d rebrand myself as “disrupting education” to get some of that sweet VC $.

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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by 29athrowaway on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:21AM (#25930103)
When their employees relocate to the US, they're required to give their employer power of attorney, which is used to report phony tax returns and take the refund checks.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/tcs-to-pay-30...

When they submit H-1B applications, they submit the same form 10 times so their employees get selected because they figured out that the H-1B selection process is literally someone grabbing a random envelope from a mail container.

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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by 908B64B197 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:39PM (#25935125)
> When they submit H-1B applications, they submit the same form 10 times so their employees get selected because they figured out that the H-1B selection process is literally someone grabbing a random envelope from a mail container.

It's time these visas get a pool per country so we can punish the ones that are trying very hard to abuse it.

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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by 29athrowaway on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:43PM (#25937877)
Just make everything electronic.

You may still submit a form, but it should be immediately be processed into electronic form before actual case processing.

Mailing paper forms is the reason that fraud vector to became possible.

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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by JakeStone on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:07AM (#25929939)
They'll still keep popping up. There's profits to be made from "boot camps". A company I worked for a couple years ago partnered up with a UK firm that's doing something similar, so it's spreading.
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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by thewarrior on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:24AM (#25930147)
It’s okay. Just don’t become a soldier for a mercenary firm.
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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by antihero on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:23PM (#25930932)
> It can absolutely work and be huge but as you scale the quality drops and it’s not a panacea.

I mean this more sounds like the recipe for yet more garbage code and various levels of disaster.

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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by pc86 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:18PM (#25934863)
There's a reason off-shore firms (Indian firms, specifically) have such a reputation for absolutely horrendous, garbage work product.
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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by antihero on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:33AM (#25939955)
Oh, I know, I've literally walked from a job due to being tasked with salvaging some poorly specced project that was outsourced to one of these firms before.
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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by jonfw on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:40AM (#25929515)
These companies/practices exist in the US as well, one of the companies you mentioned offered me a 2 year contract with an early termination fee that was 4-5 months salary
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Re:Revature coding program promises jobs but costs $36,500 t... by thewarrior on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:43AM (#25929573)
Yeah I was locked into a 3 year contract with money up front. Learned a lot but glad I managed to get out and work my way up to FANG type companies. Just prep well for interviews and leave ASAP.
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