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Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:27AM (#25924978)
I’m old fashioned. I judge articles not on whether they are published by “an odd Christian sect”, but how accurate and well-sourced they are. But hey, I’m a Boomer.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by boomboomsubban on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:52AM (#25925466)
Zero sources provided. There's a link that looks like it should go to the twitter post, but is a list of Newsweek stories about twitter. And the posts are apparently now private. So what did you judge this article on?
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:48AM (#25930424)
I judge this particular article as poorly sourced for the same reason you do. I do not judge the article for the religion of the publisher. I never read Newsweek. I thought it was long gone. But now that I know it’s there, I shall continue to judge its merits based on what they publish, not what the supposed political beliefs of the owner or staff happen to be.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by boomboomsubban on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:37PM (#25931999)
Really? You seemed pretty willing to defend a Christian (cult?) publisher by completely ignoring the faults of the article to attack criticism based on their religion. Knowing if a publisher has a clear incentive can help determine how accurate and well-sourced their claim is.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:12PM (#25932494)
You seem to be hallucinating. I cannot find anything I said defending the publisher. Perhaps you were responding to another post.

I have upvoted both of your posts that seem to be responding to me, because I much prefer a downvote and discourse to being down voted without comment.

Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by boomboomsubban on Thursday January 28, 2021 @01:59PM (#25947094)
Your position was "I judge things by how accurate and well sourced the claim was, and this claim of dodgy ownership is irrelevant." I can't see it as anything but a defense based on religious/political affiliation.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by rbanffy on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:46AM (#25926180)
Also, the important posts would be on Parler or Gab.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tptacek on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:32AM (#25924995)
You can do that. I'm just pointing out that people have a conception of what Newsweek is that doesn't match what it currently is. It's worth knowing about.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by reitanqild on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:02AM (#25925861)
You are also bothering to mention the religion of the owner, adding the (in this context) pejorative adjective "odd" and possibly more.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by krok on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @08:02AM (#25927680)
I mean, they are Christians and they are odd. Should he not be allowed to say this?
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by reitanqild on Friday January 29, 2021 @03:45AM (#25955360)
Absolutely allowed.

It does however feel weird in the same way that "odd female something", "odd muslim something", "odd socialist something", "odd atheist something".

Leaving out details that are not relevant is IMO smart because it helps the reader to avoid prematurely making up their mind because of irrelevant details.

So my take is tptacek should be allowed to write it and we should be allowed to point it out.

And one more thing: my respect for tptacek has been growing even if we clash from time to time in various settings.

Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tptacek on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:03AM (#25929005)
For the record, I am also a Christian, and I suppose to an outsider Catholicism probably looks very odd indeed, what with the feet and the noses and the gall bladders in the jars in the cathedrals and whatnot. But David Jang's "The Community" is odd in a different way --- in a more "Reunification Church" kind of way. Maybe mentally replace "odd" with "idiosyncratic" or "noteworthy". It was late when I wrote that, and I was a bit into my cups.

The word I was originally going to use was the one articles about the new "Newsweek" use: "cult". But that didn't seem quite right either.

Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:35AM (#25925010)
How do you know what people are thinking?
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by JohnHaugeland on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:44AM (#25925054)
The magic of conversation
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by enraged_camel on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:52AM (#25925103)
This seems unnecessarily antagonistic.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:42AM (#25925404)
What’s a better way to ask?
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by dguaraglia on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:24AM (#25925300)
This is known as 'sealioning'.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by tomcam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:41AM (#25925400)
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Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by interfixus on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:48AM (#25925081)
tptacek may have a conception of what people are thinking which doesn't match what they currently think.
Re:Agent fired from literary agency for using Parler and Gab by user-the-name on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:09AM (#25926775)
Pretty sure "old fashioned" people still judge the claims of people and organisations based on their past history.