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Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by raykyri on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:07AM (#25924854)
Here's the archived page if anyone else is getting a 503 error. https://web.archive.org/web/20210122161324/https://bloodknif...
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by kurtschiller on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:16AM (#25924910)
thanks for this! it's my site (I also wrote the piece) and unfortunately it seems like my hosting and/or config is struggling to keep up.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by mkl on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:13AM (#25925227)
A picky correction: the Culture has both Orbitals and Rings, and defines them differently, but you're treating them as one. Quoting myself from a year ago [1]:

> Orbitals, while enormous (greater surface area than earth), are much smaller. The Culture novels do have Ringworld-sized rings as well, though. E.g. from Consider Phlebas, flying under the orbital Vavatch: "It was like flying upside-down over a planet made of metal; and of all the sights the galaxy held which were the result of conscious effort, it was one bested for what the Culture would call gawp value only by a big Ring, or a Sphere."

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144228

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by QuesnayJr on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @03:07AM (#25925542)
I thought Orbitals were Dyson spheres. What are they?
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by mkl on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:30AM (#25926073)
They are Rings but smaller. Culture Rings are like Niven's Ringworld, and go all the way around a star, spinning around the star to simulate gravity. Culture orbitals are also ring-shaped and spinning to simulate gravity, but they're nowhere near as big (relatively speaking; still more surface area than Earth), and generally orbit a star more like a planet does. Culture Spheres are Dyson spheres.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by arethuza on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:56AM (#25926249)
The size of an Orbital is dictated by day length and surface "gravity" - they are arguably more elegant than Niven style Rings which need a lot of extra stuff to generate day/night cycles (shadow squares?).
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by mkl on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:52AM (#25926637)
Yes. One book (The Player of Games?) gave enough numbers for me to do the calculations, and it matched about 24h and 1g.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by simonh on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:46AM (#25926181)
I don't think the Culture builds rings or spheres themselves, but they exist and they are aware of them. There are civilizations in the galaxy considerably more advanced than the Culture.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by dodobirdlord on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:40AM (#25926546)
I believe the Culture is credited as having creating the ring in Consider Phlebas.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by mkl on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:49AM (#25926611)
Do you mean Vavatch, that was scheduled for destruction? That was Culture, but an Orbital.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by arethuza on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:43AM (#25927048)
Vavatch was destroyed by a militarised Culture GSV but it wasn't "owned" by the Culture.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by p_l on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:51AM (#25927588)
Vavatch was, IIRC (I'd have to search through) built by Culture, but since then ceded, similarly the ships that helped evacuate it
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by wiml on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:27AM (#25926052)
Banks' "Orbitals" are smaller rings, perhaps planet-diameter, orbiting at a distance from their star; "Rings" are Niven-Ringworld-style structures with a star in the middle. Spheres are mentioned here and there, I think, just called "spheres".
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by kurtschiller on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:44AM (#25929579)
Good catch, thank you!
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by TeMPOraL on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:10AM (#25926354)
I'll contribute a picky correction too:

> Musk by naming SpaceX rockets after Banks’s tongue-in-cheek Culture ships (“Just Read The Instructions,” “Of Course I Still Love You”)

Those are not the names of the rockets, but the ocean barges on which the rockets land.

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by imdsm on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @05:39AM (#25926541)
Just to add to this, they have those names due to their autonomous nature, much like the culture ships. I imagine Musk has the idea of a fleet of autonomous ships moving as required to collect rockets unable to make landfall.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by DonHopkins on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:36AM (#25927456)
Here's the whole list of culture ship names per novel -- share and enjoy!

https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft

>Legacy: The autonomous spaceport drone ships Of Course I Still Love You, Just Read the Instructions 1 & 2, operated by SpaceX, were named after General Contact Units mentioned in The Player of Games, as a posthumous homage to Banks by Elon Musk.[11] The construction of a fourth drone ship, named A Shortfall of Gravitas, was announced by Elon Musk via Twitter on February 12, 2018.[12] It is named after the Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall, a ship mentioned in Look to Windward and Matter as a GSV and GCU respectively.

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by w0mbat on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:36PM (#25932834)
I would say that is a major factual error in the article.

Although the barges are less glamorous than rocket stages, they are reused more times, and so are more permanent a tribute.

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by kurtschiller on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:44AM (#25929584)
Thanks, I'll correct this in the article. Appreciate it!
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by arethuza on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:46AM (#25927067)
I really hope the first ship to land on Mars is "The Ends of Invention".
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by m-i-l on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @07:13AM (#25927279)
In 2016 Musk did say "the first ship that goes to Mars, my current favourite is Heart of Gold, from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... I like the infinite improbability drive"[0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp13ztMhwGU

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by s_Hogg on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:23AM (#25924949)
Thanks for writing this. I remember getting into Banks only a couple of years before his passing, so I'm really grateful for the people who have kept going with critical thought regarding his work and who he was.
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by kurtschiller on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:37AM (#25925019)
Thanks for reading! He's far and away my favorite author, and I'm happy so many people on here love his writing as much as I do.

(And I agree with people's comments that how much of a utopia it really is is up for debate, especially if you don't agree with Banks's views on economics & society. But to me his own personal intent was very clear.)

Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by _xerces_ on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:51AM (#25929705)
I enjoyed reading this, but what is the reason for the big orange boxes that quote from later in the article? I see other publications do this and always found it distracting. Is there a reason for it, is it for the benefit of modern internet users with poor attention skills?
Re:The Culture War: Iain M. Banks’s Billionaire Fans by kurtschiller on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:55AM (#25929768)
In magazines the original intent was to catch the attention of people scanning through an issue, just flipping through - they might turn a page and suddenly see a big quote in large text that caches their interest, and so they will stop and read the article. I admit I don't know how useful it is on a website and I thought a bit about whether to include it - ultimately I left it becuse it felt "magazine-y" and part of the goal was for the site to feel more like a magazine, with issues, and less like a blog that scrolls endlessly. But I admit it is mostly an affectation that may not serve any real purpose.

Thanks for reading btw!