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Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by scrollaway on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @12:01AM (#25924493)
That's not my point. You wouldn't have had the development speed we've had the last 30 years. You wouldn't have had the same amount of devs. The same pickup on the web. The same worldwide connectivity.

Javascript is one of the, if not the, most influential technologies of the past 100 years. It changed the course of history. Can you say the same of, like, wxWidgets or whatever UI toolkit you'd be using for your native app?

Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by emptyparadise on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:46AM (#25925064)
>Javascript is one of the, if not the, most influential technologies of the past 100 years.

That's... one hell of a claim.

Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by egeozcan on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:33AM (#25926096)
JS is indeed what brought us all the speed in software development. People could prototype their ideas crazy fast, and they still can. Scripting in browser had an immense positive impact on software industry, and that DID come with many negatives, but you always have the option to completely turn it off if those bother you.

A sandboxed environment was a huge idea and the browser has been the primary example of how great it can be. The app model in mobile with permission isolated access is more or less the proprietary re-implementations of the browser sandbox.

Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by etripe on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:21AM (#25930112)
Prototyping fast does not guarantee shipping robust software fast, which is in part why the JS ecosystem has been having problems.

To apply the common construction analogy to JavaScript: no one would call a quick sketch on a napkin a valid blueprint for a building.

Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by patates on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:49AM (#25930435)
> (...) JS ecosystem has been having problems

what problems? Yeah, stuff like left-pad happened with NPM, but that has nothing to do with sandboxed scripting in browser. Also within my already-depressingly-long career, I had more problems with deploying "robust" .NET desktop apps (WPF & Forms) and even Qt based supposedly "cross-platform" apps than web apps. Web is the most robust platform I've ever worked with, and that's by a huge margin.

JS as a language has problems[1] but the idea behind it proved itself to be great.

[1]: and with the latest additions it's one of the better programming languages to work with, although the standard library sucks (or more like, nearly non-existent). But that's totally another topic.

Re:Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies by scrollaway on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @03:20AM (#25925626)
I 100% stand behind it. It rivals everything I can think of and then some (the internet itself included).