Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by morlockabove on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @07:57PM
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The kinds of people who like building things will be less sympathetic to environmental concerns when those concerns are 'don't build that, leave the world untainted by human hand'- there's a difference between polluting by building/placing something of value somewhere and polluting as a pure stupid ugly externality. Engineer-y people might be inclined to hate the latter but not the former.
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Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by titzer on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:26PM
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Well, that, and with modern machinery, a global investment economy, and so many construction jobs depending on infinite growth, "build that junk" is the no-brainer solution to everything. Problem is, just a couple "build that junk" people can do so much damage, unless checked by an unusual, overwhelming backlash, we're not slowing down in any measurable way any time soon.
Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by perl4ever on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:19PM
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The aspect of amateur astronomy culture that discouraged me was the awful code published in Sky & Telescope back in the late 80s or early 90s.
They used to have a policy that in order to be compatible with the least common denominator of their readers, they required published programs to be in BASIC. And not just BASIC, but basic BASIC, with line numbers.
As far as I was concerned, it was unreadable and obsolete since about 1985. It also probably influenced me away from ever learning Forth by association.
Not to mention, that when I got a book on astronomical computer algorithms, it turned out that the available implementations were in Fortran, which to my taste was as bad or worse.
Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by Uhrheber on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:33AM
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Fortran is still popular in scientific computing, and modern compilers are pretty good.
Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by titzer on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @10:06AM
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Not only that, but modern compilers are insanely good at compiling numerical Fortran code. The very first optimizing compiler was for Fortran and it's consistently been on the forefront of compiler techniques ever since.
Re:What does the night sky look like on Mars?
by perl4ever on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @06:21PM
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I know that's the cliche, but I don't think that something like VSOP87 would be noticeably faster compiled with Fortran vs. C, in the early 90s. If there even was a Fortran compiler available for Mac or Amiga, it was probably priced obscenely, too.