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Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by cpach on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @07:45AM (#25915177)
An alternative distro is being developed here: https://rockylinux.org/
Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by adolph on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:24AM (#25915475)
Here’s a podcast that explains the background of Rocky and Centos. It speaks to the original aims of Centos and how Rocky continues the mission and attempts to fix some of the org structure problems that lead to Centos being where it is today.

https://changelog.com/podcast/427

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by s5ma6n on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:00AM (#25915296)
This is good news but due to the nature of widely adopted open-source projects, they are still vulnerable to a similar situation. It is listed that AWS is one of the sponsors of the Rocky Linux. Recently we have seen what happened between elastic and AWS. So, AWS could also pull an IBM and decide to drop it or tie it tightly with AWS services etc.

It is a difficult situation in general and it is a shame that this was one of the most used distros in servers.

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by tehbeard on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @01:25PM (#25919382)
AWS wouldn't use it to compete with rocky foundation/group, they'd use it to offer a RHEL derivative on their platform.

Funding it to get a pathway to onboard RHEL-like workloads without the costly licence? Worth the change they put down for it.

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by JeremyNT on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @12:44PM (#25918852)
> Recently we have seen what happened between elastic and AWS. So, AWS could also pull an IBM and decide to drop it or tie it tightly with AWS services etc.

There's a lot of reason to distrust Amazon, but this isn't what ended up happening with Elasticsearch and Kibana. Ultimately, the company Elastic took open source projects, moved them to more restrictive licenses, and Amazon came in and committed to maintaining proper open source forks.

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by pjmlp on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @09:12AM (#25915919)
Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by 3395810 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @09:26AM (#25916066)
CloudLinux is also working on a CentOS replacement.

https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-communit...

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by chaz6 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:29AM (#25917688)
There is also an alternative being developed here: https://almalinux.org/ which will be well financed by a company with years of experience.
Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by gibs0ns on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @07:54AM (#25915257)
Unfortunate name. To say something is rocky, is like saying it's unstable/unreliable.
Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by _joel on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:14AM (#25915404)
Why, are the Rocky Mountains about to collapse?

Also this is a sentimental name, chosen well imho.

> "Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by tweetle_beetle on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:27AM (#25915503)
> uncertain and difficult and not likely to last long

> difficult or uncertain

> unable to balance very well

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rocky

The parent to your comment is correct, as are you about the specific reference in this case.

The etymology of the Rocky Mountains is unrelated to either:

> The Rocky Mountains were so called by 1802, translating French Montagnes Rocheuses, first applied to the Canadian Rockies. "The name is not directly self-descriptive but is an approximate translation of the name of the former Native American people here known as the Assiniboin .... The mountains are in fact not noticeably rocky"

https://www.etymonline.com/word/rocky

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by visualphoenix on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:46AM (#25915687)
Interesting... I didn’t know about Rocky McGaugh, but I’ve definitely benefited from CentOS.

In attempting to research who Rocky was, I stumbled onto this post with a dead link[0]. Anyone know the story behind Rocky and TeamHPC?

[0] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/news-155...

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by HunterWare on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:36AM (#25915589)
No, it's because rocky shores were very hazardous to shipping, and a ship "on the rocks" was either close to, or in, immediate peril.

The homage seems lovely, but doesn't (unfortunately) change the fact that to the vast majority of english speakers "rocky" means unstable/dangerous... In fact, one of the most common expressions referring to an unstable/bad relationship is "their relationship is on the rocks" or "they are on the rocks".

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by _joel on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:41AM (#25915646)
Well I'm British and whilst I understand the etymology of the phrase I really don't associate Rocky Linux with being an unstable distro, but each to their own.
Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by alxlaz on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:51AM (#25915717)
I think it's safe to say that, between the primary sense of "rocky" being "made of rock" and elementary common sense, nobody does ;-).

People aren't going to think Rocky Linux is unstable for the same reasons why they don't think Apple computers rot if you leave them in the sun. Also, if a product called Red Hat Enterprise Linux was successful despite the name, I'm guessing it can't be that much of an obstacle for Rocky, either.

Re:CentOS Linux is ending because Red Hat refused to invest ... by cardiffspaceman on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @01:02PM (#25919090)
You can't stop people from interpreting names as they will.

My reading of the name "Rocky Linux" is similar to my reading of the name "Rocky Balboa". It could be just a name, like "Foo" or it could signify toughness, as "Rocky" does as a nickname in many cases. In two non-fiction cases of boxers, "Rocky" is a diminutive of "Rock" or "The Rock".