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Re:System separation in the Continental Europe Synchronous A... by nottorp on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @07:37AM (#25915129)
Maybe, but I bet those designs are very traditional and date from the time where it was cheaper to use grid frequency.

If not, why don't coffee machines that can start on a timer have a backup battery for their clock? That might be cheap enough too. And vital for those moments when there was a 10 second brownout which leads to your coffee not being ready in the morning...

Re:System separation in the Continental Europe Synchronous A... by wongarsu on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:02AM (#25915310)
> why don't coffee machines that can start on a timer have a backup battery for their clock?

As a European the thought wouldn't have come to me. Brownouts just don't happen (see this 0.5% frequency dip making headlines), and a blackout is a once-a-decade event for any given house (probably even less frequent than that).

So your answer is probably that demand for that feature is far from universal, and a coffee machine is much lower stakes than for example an alarm clock.

Re:System separation in the Continental Europe Synchronous A... by nottorp on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @11:04AM (#25929900)
> Depends. I'm in a rural area, and I get 5-second power cuts every couple of months. It's the main reason I have a UPS under my computer desk.

This. Can't put the coffee maker on an UPS though. Or not on a cost effective UPS.

> So your answer is probably that demand for that feature is far from universal, and a coffee machine is much lower stakes than for example an alarm clock.

Actually for the alarm clock i'm just going to be late. Not having coffee hurts much more!

Re:System separation in the Continental Europe Synchronous A... by mnw21cam on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @04:37AM (#25926128)
Depends. I'm in a rural area, and I get 5-second power cuts every couple of months. It's the main reason I have a UPS under my computer desk.