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Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by boulos on Monday January 25, 2021 @09:45PM (#25911817)
Russell’s teapot doesn’t fit in this case. Paper ballots exist. Many were manually recounted (whether by optical scanner or by hand).

Are there actually claims of miscounted votes that you feel were miscounted or incorrectly treated that you feel are verifiable? (And haven’t already been refuted via evidence)

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by ekianjo on Monday January 25, 2021 @11:35PM (#25912584)
> . Many were manually recounted (whether by optical scanner or by hand).

My understanding is that in several places the envelopes in which the ballots were sent were allegedly prone to irregularities and the ballots have been extracted anyway and the envelopes disposed of, so recounts would by default take in account faulty/incomplete ballots if this actually happened. (no idea if the claim is true, however)

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by Thorrez on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @01:38AM (#25913208)
>envelopes disposed of

Are envelopes generally involved? In the Antrim County dispute[1] it sounds like they use Image Cast Precinct (ICP) tabulators[2][3]. This[4] appears to be a video of one in use[5], and it doesn't seem to involve an envelope. If there's 100% mail-in voting then yes every ballot would have an envelope. But if there's any less than 100% then there will be less envelopes than ballots, so I'm not sure envelopes would be too useful for recounts.

[1] https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/14/m...

[2] https://www.michigan.gov/documents/ag/SOS_Benson_Response_An...

[3] https://www.9and10news.com/content/uploads/2020/12/Antrim_Mi...

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t4l3eKRJv4

[5] https://verifiedvoting.org/election-system/dominion-imagecas...

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by qwerty12345678 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @12:30AM (#25912909)
I forgot to touch on this in my reply...If what I mentioned in my reply did in fact occur, you now understand why "recounts" wouldn't make any difference.
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Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by Thorrez on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @01:43AM (#25913227)
> * Original ballot gets lost (destroyed?)

Do you have a source for that? Michigan's response in the Antrim County dispute (which I think you're referring to by "60% adjudication rate") seems to say the original hand marked ballots are retained:

>Because voting tabulators in Michigan use hand marked, paper ballots, any alleged errors in tabulators can be caught during a hand recount, which any candidate could have requested in Antrim County.

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/ag/SOS_Benson_Response_An...