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Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by whatshisface on Monday January 25, 2021 @05:39PM (#25909933)
>If he himself was sold by the (false) facts he received from others, he is a more difficult defamation target.

A skilled liar would never for a moment reveal that they did not truly believe what they were saying, not even in private correspondence. Even in typical, not overtly evil companies, the saying "write for the subpoena" is passed around as advice for would-be upfront communicators.

Still, if criminals never made mistakes the justice system would convict almost nobody of anything.

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by giulianisphone on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:02PM (#25910160)
>If he himself was sold by the (false) facts he received from others, he is a more difficult defamation target.

I feel like Giuliani got himself stuck between a rock and a hard place here by filing actual lawsuits.

At that point, he either had to (1) include his claims about Dominion (which were extremely relevant to his lawsuits) and open himself up to perjury or (2) leave his claims out, providing pretty damning evidence in a defamation suit that he didn't believe the evidence himself.

He went with (2) and he only has a tiny bit of wiggle room to prove that he believed the claims / "evidence" but they wouldn't be useful to include in his lawsuits.

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by MisterBastahrd on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:35PM (#25910467)
Giuliani made absolutely sure that courts understood that he was NOT alleging fraud in the lawsuits he filed and took part in because he was afraid that he would be sanctioned or disbarred for such actions.

Powell and Wood relied on donations for their work and Wood in particular is a multi-millionaire many times over for some of the corporate work he's done. I'm sure Rudy is rich, mostly from the speech circuit post 9/11, but he's not Lin Wood rich. He probably needs to work to maintain his lifestyle.

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by crispyambulance on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:56PM (#25910627)
Rudy is “rich enough” that he can do what he does for ideological and/or narcissistic reasons alone. He could have been living a posh retirement years ago holding court and getting blotto everyday with other a-holes, but no, he doesn’t know when to stop.

Giuliani deserves whatever is coming to him.

Re:Dominion Voting Systems Sues Rudy Giuliani by perl4ever on Monday January 25, 2021 @09:57PM (#25911887)
According to an article I saw, his apparent purpose in firing people up was to sell "physical gold and silver" to them, to prepare for these uncertain times. And he was offering $1500 in free silver with the first order, too.

This seems to be a standard trope but I've never met anyone who fit it.

It also makes you wonder why he needs to bother.