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Re:Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 by WrtCdEvrydy on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:25AM (#25899609)
(I suspect it syncs with the grids 60hz...)

Yeah, that's the actual reason. I've seen someone use a small Honda generator to generate the frequency required to trick the solar generator into going... it's a weird setup because you basically tie in your generator using a breaker, so both generator and solar can be enabled at the same time.

Re:Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 by Toutouxc on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:22AM (#25899954)
That sounds borderline stupid, is there a technical reason you can't just generate the "clock" internally? Do most of the devices require grid AC?
Re:Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 by toast0 on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:31AM (#25899994)
Most home solar installs are grid-tied. No utility power, no solar power.

It simplifies the system a lot, because the grid provides "instantaneous" load matching for your house. If the inverter is sourcing more current than your house is sinking, the grid will sink it. If the house is sinking more current than your inverter is sourcing, the grid will source it.

When there's a utility outage, you need something else to provide the load matching. Either a local generator, or a battery is common; but either way, it's a lot more expensive.

Re:Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 by rhodozelia on Monday January 25, 2021 @02:58AM (#25900594)
It is a more complex and expensive inverter that can operate both isolated from the grid and in sync with it I think because it has to know when to do which and if it is outputting power how can it tell if the system is live because it is grid tied or because it is keeping the system energized itself.

I think they need external signals to tell them which mode to operate in.

Maybe the external system sees the frequency and voltage dropping or lower than normal range and decides to disconnect the load from the grid and opens a breaker and tells the inverter to operate in isolated mode.

When the external system sees the utility power is good again it could tell the inverter to shut off, close the breaker to connect the load to the utility, and then the inverter can go back to grid tie. The outage can be very short unless the load is large motors they don’t like the instantaneous change in phase when switching between different sources that are out of sync.

Re:Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 by pjc50 on Monday January 25, 2021 @03:19AM (#25900735)
It's a safety reason. If the company disconnect the grid upstream to work on it, and your house is still powering it, they have a problem. You need extra equipment to automatically disconnect the house from the grid too.