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Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by frevib on Saturday January 23, 2021 @10:33AM (#25882908)
Kotlin is slighty better Java. No more getters, setters, hashcode and toString. Kotlin is also much better Java for asynchronous programming, null-safety, and functional programming. It’s modern Java.
Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by twistedpair on Saturday January 23, 2021 @01:53PM (#25885031)
Same goes for Scala and Case Classes. Alas the type astronauts went crazy with Scala, scaring some folks off.
Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by eweise on Saturday January 23, 2021 @07:10PM (#25887435)
I agree. I wish the Scala community would inherit some of the simplifying culture of the Go community.
Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by ebruchez on Saturday January 23, 2021 @09:24PM (#25888408)
Scala 3 introduces a number of simplifications. For example, typeclasses and other constructs are much easier with Scala 3. This said, Scala always included the idea of having a powerful type system. From this perspective, it can never be as simple as a language that doesn't have a comparatively powerful type system (or no static type system at all).
Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by bcrosby95 on Saturday January 23, 2021 @07:37PM (#25887600)
The philosophy behind Kotlin and Java really couldn't be more different. Go is much closer to a modern Java than Kotlin.

Kotlin does have some nice additions. But it is very much a kitchen sink language. I wish I could take some of those nicer additions and leave the sink.

Re:Java 1.0 Turns 25 by pjmlp on Saturday January 23, 2021 @11:56AM (#25883839)
Without a VM to call its own, unless we start talking about ART or the failure of Kotlin/Native memory model.