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Re:Brad Cox has died by captainclam on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:02PM (#25878818)
"I think Alan's idea of OOP was something more fluid, more organic than this."

I've heard a good deal about Alan Kay's dissent of the state of OOP, but I've never seen a concise summary of his vision or the principles that Kay's 'ideal' realization of OOP would adhere to.

Does such a resource exist, written by Kay himself or otherwise? Or do I just need to go play around with Obj C or Smalltalk to really "get it?"

Re:Brad Cox has died by astrange on Friday January 22, 2021 @10:11PM (#25879217)
Re:Brad Cox has died by AJRF on Friday January 22, 2021 @09:11PM (#25878873)
Here he discusses his thoughts on the term; http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay...
Re:Brad Cox has died by lostcolony on Friday January 22, 2021 @10:16PM (#25879249)
But, yes, you really need to play around with one to 'get it'. Or at least, get why the other languages fail to really uphold the goal.

Per the original anecdote, being told "it's all blue!" isn't that impressive when you've seen the spots of blue and shrugged them off as just normal little detours amongst the pink, and can't imagine everything being blue. You have to see it for yourself.

Re:Brad Cox has died by coldtea on Saturday January 23, 2021 @12:06PM (#25883974)
>I've heard a good deal about Alan Kay's dissent of the state of OOP, but I've never seen a concise summary of his vision or the principles that Kay's 'ideal' realization of OOP would adhere to.

Smalltalk 76-like...