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Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by acidbaseextract on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:31PM (#25877121)
A nice approach I'm hoping will gain traction when discussing density across different types of logic is the "LMC" metric, as put forward by some TSMC and Stanford folks: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=9063714

Improved semiconductor device density directly translates into benefits for more advanced computing systems— the primary driver for progress in semiconductor technology. Thus, we propose the use of the following three-part number as a metric to gauge advancement of future semiconductor technologies: [DL, DM , DC ], where DL is the density of logic transistors (in #/mm2), DM is the bit density of main memory (currently the off-chip DRAM density, in #/mm2), and DC is the density of connections between the main memory and logic (in #/mm2). As an example, today’s leading edge technologies that are published in the literature [15]–[17] can be characterized by [38M, 383M, 12K]. As another example, 3-D stacking of multiple logic and memory dies can increase DL, DM, and DC .

Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by jjoonathan on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:56PM (#25877337)
I love the idea of having that information readily available, but I don't think it will ever be a banner spec. Three numbers is two too many and who wants "density" when you can have "MEGATRANSISTORS"? I know, I know, but marketing is what it is and I think it's better to lean into it.
Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by acidbaseextract on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:05PM (#25877423)
Of course, and I agree that marketing traction matters. I should have said this is an idle hope that some of these fancier metrics get published/leaked about TSMC/Samsung/Intel processes rather than that they become the metric. I do think MT/mm^2 or whatever is a strong candidate to become the thing. "megatransistors" is an exciting word.
Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by phkahler on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:39PM (#25877776)
>> "megatransistors" is an exciting word.

Not as cool as megaFonzies.

Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by wombatpm on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:52PM (#25877916)
So is that going to be M as 1000^2 or M as 1024^2.

(still bitter about the whole GB vs GiB think caused by marketing people)

Re:Chipmaking Is Being Redesigned by MrPatan on Saturday January 23, 2021 @04:19AM (#25880876)
To be fair to marketing people, they were correct, weren't they?

Deciding that in your field you're going to redefine standard units and their abreviations is a bit lazy.