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Re:How hard should I push myself? by AbrahamParangi on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:40PM (#25876651)
It must be okay to say things that are only 95% true. Otherwise we cannot say anything at all.
Re:How hard should I push myself? by jpitz on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:54PM (#25876766)
It is ok to say things that are only 95% true.

It is ok to point out the 5%.

Re:How hard should I push myself? by giantDinosaur on Friday January 22, 2021 @08:08PM (#25878499)
Just as often pointing out the 5% is then used as an excuse to not do something, even when the advice does apply. The number of times I've brought up how much a healthy lifestyle matters to have it dismissed because someone they knew/heard of died at 30 from cancer despite being vegetarian and exercising all the time is rather high.
Re:How hard should I push myself? by kaitai on Friday January 22, 2021 @08:59PM (#25878797)
Hey, this ties in with the Weak Man Superweapon thread! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25876554
Re:How hard should I push myself? by stkdump on Saturday January 23, 2021 @01:34PM (#25884883)
These are probably people that don't want to live a healthy lifestyle and no amount of pointing at the negatives will change that. Their point isn't "healthy lifestyle doesn't help" but rather "some people beat themself up and make themself miserable with this health stuff and then don't even reap the benefits of that".
Re:How hard should I push myself? by AbrahamParangi on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:09PM (#25876910)
Yes.
Re:How hard should I push myself? by bergstromm466 on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:51PM (#25877292)
Not sure if you misread it but your “yes” sounds like maybe you read this as a question: “Is it...”, and not the “It is...” that OP wrote.

I want to reiterate that for people with few spoons [1], they don’t need to get permission to be allowed to only do what works for them, or to feel shame for not being able to do what can seem easier for others: i.e. ‘powering through’.

I’ve seen this ugly thing where people make all sorts of assumptions about me, and perhaps unconsciously, yet verbally, speak out their train of thought, which means they often say something that ‘excuses me’ for not ‘powering through’, or that after reminding them of my background, that they now understand why I do not force myself to ‘power through’. It feels shit and it sucks because it’s a constant reminder of the ruthless productivity that is expected in many areas in modern life. A conversation like this can also slowly lure me back into taking on way too much, way too fast, and not properly looking after myself or others.

Not all disabilities are visible.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory

Re:How hard should I push myself? by jhardy54 on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:12PM (#25877492)
Yes.
Re:How hard should I push myself? by orzig on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:54PM (#25877324)
Worth noting that the portion of people dealing with something that could drain at least some energy each day is almost certainly more than 5%

It could be as simple as having a young child, for example.

Re:How hard should I push myself? by groby_b on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:53PM (#25876753)
It is. Note that OP wasn't criticized for the statement per se, but that PP suggested an amendment to that statement.

It must be equally OK to amend incomplete statements, otherwise we stagnate.

Re:How hard should I push myself? by muench on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:02PM (#25877391)
Something like "But I'd suggest..." is a good example for using "'And' NOT Bbut'" [0] to avoid the connotation of contradiction implied when using 'but'. Very useful like in this case where the intention is amendment rather than contradiction.

[0] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inviting-monkey-tea/...