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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by ksec on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:29PM (#25866134)
Forgive me, which part of [1] even mentioned Profits, Revenue, Business Models, CopyLeft ?

And which part of the same article ever said Elastic are not OK with Amazon providing a Services using their Open Source Software? Which they are legally allowed to do so with Apache 2.0? They even mentioned and I quote:

"We collaborate with cloud service providers, including Microsoft, Google, Alibaba, Tencent, Clever Cloud, and others. We have shown we can find a way to do it."

What they are not happy with was the TradeMark. Amazon usage of that Trademark to mislead customers and this isn't some recent things either. It has been going on for 5 years. ( And yes the court should be used to settle that. )

So majority of HN; including its previous threads with 1000+ comments, is basically making allegation that Elastic is making the changes because of their Business Model. Until that can be proved, allegations remain merely assertions.

But right now it is being stated as Facts. And it is now being spin into ethical debate.

And I was under the impression, should Amazon be forced to fork it, which they did as announced, would have to use a different name. Instead they choose to use ElasticSearch again.

[1] https://www.elastic.co/blog/why-license-change-AWS

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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by mathnmusic on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:35AM (#25870736)
If the dispute is with AWS abusing the trademark, license change is an exaggerated punishment that harms many others besides AWS itself.
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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by hnra on Friday January 22, 2021 @06:02AM (#25870567)
What is the point of the license change then? AFAICT the software license does not affect the trademark, so the only effect of this change is to disallow hosting ElasticSearch as a service.
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