Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana
by ocdtrekkie on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:12PM
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On the contrary, this is win-win for everyone: Amazon now has to make their fork competitive with Elastic's, so they'll have to invest more resources in open source development. Elastic is also still free to grab their Apache-licensed improvements.
Meanwhile, if Elastic's future improvements are better than AWS', it'll drive use of their services over Amazon's.
Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana
by paulryanrogers on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:51PM
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> if Elastic's future improvements are better than AWS', it'll drive use of their services over Amazon's.
Except Amazon has a moat: no egress fees and network effects. AWS is starting the race way ahead.
Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana
by __blockcipher__ on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:04AM
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Elastic doesn't need to make more money than Amazon. They just need to be able to make enough to have a healthy business, and so far they've achieved that. $500MM yearly revenue with 40+% growth is nothing to scoff at.
It really seems like Elastic's motivation here is jealousy more than anything else. Which I understand from an emotional perspective, but from a logical perspective it's a big business blunder they've made IMO.
Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana
by __blockcipher__ on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:03AM
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I totally agree, I think this is great for the community because the writing was on the wall ever since the initial X-pack source-available drama as well as the original OpenDistro drama.
I think this will be better for all involved.
Simply put, this is a naive and entitled attitude. And here's my proof of that: Elastic is a success story. They gave away software for free and turned it into a $15B business. And yet there's still people like you being apologists for their outright lies and intentionally misleading statements. I find it so incredibly absurd.
Elastic is tricking you into thinking that they are not an absurdly successful business. That's not true.
Oh, and one last time: This license change doesn't even protect their business, so it's totally pointless. It's just a business blunder. The SSPL will not make a difference to Amazon because they're not going to use the SSPL version of the code. It's so simple.