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Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by pjmlp on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:59PM (#25865781)
Because the community decided to use a license that allows it.
Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by sg47 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:41PM (#25866259)
The community did that in good faith. What's the incentive for the community to contribute to the project if Vendor XYZ is going to offer the same project with more optimizations?
Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by bigiain on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:05PM (#25866476)
The buggy whip community invested in buggy whip manufacturing too.

Sometimes step changes happen, and things are just different afterwards.

I see two related "changes in the world" here that are contributing to this current drama.''

1) the rise of SaaS and globally centralised cloud hosting.

2) the emergence of companies solely (or mostly) built on paying salaries to developers writing an open source software project. (Elastic/Mongo/Redis being the primary examples).

As I see it, the 30 year old "Open Source" principles didn't see these coming any more than the buggy whip industry saw the Model T coming.

Personally, I'd really like to see those three companies (and others/new entrants) come up with a workable new model for software licenses for some kind of "freely usable software" ("free" in the generic "no obligations" sense, not the GPL/Stallman "freedom" sense) written by salaried devs at for-profit companies. I think the world would be a better place with more software closer to the Stallman end of the license spectrum than the Oracle end. I don't think that's necessarily a given. It might well be true that in general, a for profit company cannot make enough money out of writing software and giving it away to keep teams of full time developers paid.

Re:AWS announces forks of Elasticsearch and Kibana by CRConrad on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:18PM (#25876482)
~20, not 30.