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Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by coldtea on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:23AM (#25856699)
And it's not because the USA cares, it's about the trade war and the superpower piss match.
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by beerandt on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:25AM (#25857056)
I'd argue it's the reverse: If anything, trade concerns have prevented/deterred the US from being able to speak up sooner.
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by coldtea on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:34AM (#25857840)
Trade concerns ruled then, trade concerns ruled now.

Then not speaking was "good for trade", now speaking is "good for the trade war".

Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by throwaway0a5e on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:16AM (#25858995)
The only reason we have "trade concerns" in the first place is because we don't want to be beholden to jerks.

We tolerated it for a little bit (i.e. the last decade and a half) while there was still some delusion that they might stop being jerks but those days are over.

If China wasn't bullying everyone it thinks it can and wasn't engaging in domestic ethnic cleansing and wasn't trying to create 1984 we'd have no problem being economically joined at the hip with them. But they are. So we got beef.

Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by coldtea on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:30AM (#25859865)
>The only reason we have "trade concerns" in the first place is because we don't want to be beholden to jerks.

No, it's because the US don't want to be beholden to anyone, period. It's about keeping control (and profit, greed, and other less high ideals), not about moral contempt for the CCP.

>and wasn't engaging in domestic ethnic cleansing and wasn't trying to create 1984 we'd have no problem being economically joined at the hip with them.

Somehow that was never a problem with people from Pinochet to Suharto and from Nicaraguan death squads to Saddam (when he was still a handy ally), or when there are "homemade" bombs doing the killing...

>If China wasn't bullying everyone it thinks it can

This is beyond ironic. The US has been bullying and strong-arming the whole globe for over century, toppled democratic regimes (from Mossadeq to Allende and on), had supported countless dictators in their countries with funds and arms, treated Latin American countries as banana republics, has invaded and occupied four countries just in the last 20 years (plus countless bombings), keeps torture camps (from Abu Graib to Guantanamo), and maintains hundreds of army bases all over the world, not to mention global surveillance. It's only the only country that used nuclear bombs in wars ever (on civilians non the less).

It's only the idea that their shit doesn't stink, and the belief in some "manifest destiny" of the US to carry the light and lead the rest 96% of humanity (in need of guidance), that gives people in the US the gal to dare to criticize another country...

It's more the case of a pitch black pot calling a new and upcoming black kettle black, case...

Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by beerandt on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:07AM (#25859543)
I'm not sure that the value of trade vs value of the trade war/ calling-out-genocide has changed, so much as the cost of calling them out was quickly approaching "inevitable."

It's not like Trump would have had a problem escalating the situation years ago. And if anything, it would have had more political value for him to do it pre-election.

Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by xyzzy123 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:29AM (#25859852)
I read it instead as the outgoing president determining that the cost to him of making this call had dropped to zero.
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by beerandt on Thursday January 21, 2021 @11:35AM (#25860730)
Maybe- but that didn't change in the days leading up to inauguration. Or even since the pandemic began.

I haven't seen anyone in media seriously attack the claim itself. Which shows that political cost wasn't really a concern (even if the Biden admin didn't like the timing of the statement).

Again, if it was personal / selfishness, pre-election or earlier would have made more sense.

Even as far back as being a distraction from the (1st) impeachment would have been high benefit, low/no cost.

People are quick to presume the worst with Trump's motives for a particular action, without necessarily thinking what the preferred/likely action would be, given a particular motive.

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Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by yostrovs on Thursday January 21, 2021 @08:04AM (#25858388)
That history is recognized. The issue is that genocide is happening right now in China, and hating America shouldn't blind you to that fact.
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by leric on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:08AM (#25859569)
Take it easy,it could be a chinese wumao working in prison, and this is the text book answer to this kind of question
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by coldtea on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:52AM (#25860144)
Ah, the "everybody on the web must be astroturfing, only those agreeing with me (and my country's point of view) are legit" argument.
Re:Twitter locks account of Chinese Embassy in U.S. by blackrock on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:54PM (#25864100)
And my comment got censored for just pointing out the historical truth, in order to expose the hypocrisy of the situation.