Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App

Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by pseudalopex on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:20PM (#25851431)

Did the company switch to Matrix?

XMPP was pretty successful in the 2000s. More than Matrix so far. There were missed opportunities but the main reason it declined was Facebook and Google decided closed was more profitable than open.

Why exclude native clients?

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Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by SulfurHexaFluri on Thursday January 21, 2021 @12:20AM (#25855737)

I'm not even convinced they decided it was more profitable. The decision probably went something like this:

Manager: Our users want this feature

Developer: We can't add that because it will cause incompatibility with XMPP clients

Manager: This is the 50th feature that has been blocked by XMPP and hardly any of our users use it. Time to cut off support for it

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Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by xorcist on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:18AM (#25858119)

It's probably much simpler than that:

"It has come to my attention that clients which we do not control connect to our service. This severely limits the monetization opportunities available to us. Please fix before it is caught in a due diligence."

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Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by mszcz on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:23AM (#25856408)

That and they probably threw hoards of cash and engineering at the problem.

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Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by upofadown on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:39AM (#25857875)

XMPP is pretty successful right now. Last I heard there were something like 80k federated servers. Matrix can only dream of that level of sucess...

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Re:Show HN: Beeper – All Your Chats in One App by Arathorn on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:10AM (#25859585)

we can see ~60k federated servers on Matrix right now, and presumably there are loads more we can't see.

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