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Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by turbinerneiter on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:44AM (#25846977)
Not sure how you come to this conclusion - but I am also not sure how I came to mine:

* Open Source is cool

* Open Source means everyone can use your stuff and by releasing you kinda gave up your right to complain about that - it's the point of Open Source that others can use your stuff

* if you want Open Source, but make sure the others who use your stuff also share your stuff, maybe use GPL, which designed for that?

I do really feel for projects like elastic - but also, they all used the "wrong" license.

Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by zokier on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @10:18AM (#25847395)
> * if you want Open Source, but make sure the others who use your stuff also share your stuff, maybe use GPL, which designed for that?

> I do really feel for projects like elastic - but also, they all used the "wrong" license.

It is worth noting that SSPL which the discussion revolves around originates from MongoDB which originally was AGPL. So they started with "right" license and still ended up switching.

Part of the blame falls on AGPL not being clear enough, which led Mongo to overcorrect when creating SSPL.

Re:Open source means surrendering your monopoly over commerc... by rakoo on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:13PM (#25848953)
> Part of the blame falls on AGPL not being clear enough, which led Mongo to overcorrect when creating SSPL.

No, AGPL (and GPL before it) is working as intended; the issue for Mongo and Elastic is that it never cared about how you're making money, and that's very much by design. I don't see SSPL as improving the freedom of the users of software, so I don't really see a fault in (A)GPL