Oh, so Wayland is finally ready to replace X11?

Whether wayland is ready for you basically comes down to 2 questions:

* Do you use a nvidia GPU * Do you need to screen share from electron or other x11 only applications (MS teams, etc)

Its ready if you said no to both of those.

I tried plasma-wayland on Arch a couple days ago.

Log in, open firefox. Minimize the window, and the entire machine freezes. This is on an AMD GPU as well.

Every time I try Wayland, whether it be sway on my laptop or plasma on my desktop, I run into snags that did not exist in X. So back to X I go.

I'll switch to Wayland when it's ready "for real, actually, promise", and not a moment before. Maybe when Debian Stable switches to it by default.

Unfortunately the KDE wayland session is still somewhat unstable. GNOME's wayland session is farther along in this regard.

You can use MS teams in Chromium or Firefox. The secret is that Browsers disable 3rd Party cookies per default for a year now or so and Microsoft has not reacted to it yet.

The screensharing can be worked around by building a somewhat hacky solution (recording the desktop to an XWayland window and sharing that, for example by using https://gitlab.com/lelgenio/dotfiles/-/blob/master/dotfiles/...).

Screen sharing of X11 windows from a Firefox running on Wayland works fine for me under Sway. Sharing of other Wayland windows, or the whole screen, however, does not.

Won't it be ready when X11 apps can run inside without issue? X servers on Windows don't have these sort of problems.

> Do you need to screen share from electron or other x11 only applications

Doesn't XWayland solve this?

No, but Pipewire does, and it works under both X11 and Wayland.

Firefox supports Pipewire, Chrome has it behind experimental flag. Electron apps like Skype or Teams? Forget it.

No.