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Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by the_mitsuhiko on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:06PM (#25840186)
Cars in Europe don’t honk on open/close. It’s not illegal but there are some non honk areas and because of that manufactures don’t enable it.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by johanvts on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:28PM (#25840405)
It is illegal to honk in Denmark unless theres a dangerous situation ahead. Honk any other a time you can be fined about 130€
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by olyjohn on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:38PM (#25840508)
It’s actually illegal in Washington State as well. I’m sure that’s fairly common in a lot of states and countries. But of course it’s also not enforced here.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by jniedrauer on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @07:36PM (#25841077)
> It’s actually illegal in Washington State

Woah, didn't know this. It's not like it really changes anything when someone lays on their horn while passing me on my bike. But at least I can feel some righteous indignation now.

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by calt on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @10:00PM (#25842108)
> righteous indignation

That's just the default for me while cycling.

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by zenexer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:56AM (#25845863)
If I recall correctly, either in my state or a state I visited, it’s technically a legal requirement to honk while overtaking a cyclist. Nobody ever does that, though, since it comes across as rude.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by banana_giraffe on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @07:56PM (#25841218)
RCW 46.37.380 calls out alarms specifically as being allowed to use a horn, and makes no mention of how often you're allowed to use a horn outside of the highway.

I'm curious which law covers it outside of that that makes it illegal to use.

Granted, I'm sure you're right if it does exist. There are some cars with ludicrously loud exhausts around here that gleefully violate RCW 46.37.390 that are ignored by cops.

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by stephencanon on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @08:16PM (#25841368)
Heck, it’s a $350 fine in NYC.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by nostromo on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @10:31PM (#25842294)
If actually enforced, this would immediately close NYC’s multi-billion dollar budget shortfall.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by mulmen on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:59PM (#25840722)
I did not know this! I’ll have to dig through the owners manual and figure out how to turn that off.

Do you have a link to the RCW?

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by encom on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:35PM (#25840475)
Another dane here: Despite this, the horn is used just as much as a fuck-you-horn as anywhere else. I doubt anyone has ever gotten a fine for it, except maybe if they had been really obnoxious with it next to a police officer.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by peteretep on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @10:01PM (#25842119)
How do you let people know you’re about to execute a particularly impressive road manoeuvre and they should pay attention?!? You just need to yell or?

(I have probably driven 95% of the km I’ve driven in various SE Asian countries)

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by m463 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:03AM (#25844950)
I remember a case where a person was pulled over by the police for flashing his lights at oncoming traffic to warn of a speed trap.

I think his defense was that fining him for it interfered with his free speech.

I wonder if honking is a free speech issue :)

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:11AM (#25845473)
Pretty much all these laws main goal is to be a pretext for an otherwise illegal fishing stop. So pretty much all of them can be overturned if someone with deep enough pockets to prople the defense up the court system waits around long enough to find a case with a sympathetic fact pattern.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by t0mas88 on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @06:39PM (#25840510)
Same in the Netherlands but costs between 90 and 370 euros depending on what you did.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by KineticLensman on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:15AM (#25845037)
Something else that may vary is whether a car has a delay when you lock it. I hired a car in the US once (I'm from the UK) and there was a several second delay from the time of pressing the fob to the car actually locking. Because I sometimes check that the car is locked by immediately operating the physical door handle, I was initially convinced that the locking mechanism was broken.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by nielsole on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:40AM (#25844019)
The first time I exited a car of a friend in the US, I literally jumped because the honking caught me off guard.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by nathan_f77 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:17AM (#25845054)
Thanks for your comment! I just bought an old 2001 VW Beetle that was imported from Europe, and I thought there might be something wrong with it because it didn't make any sound when I used the remote. Nice to know that this is by design.
Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by globular-toast on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:22AM (#25843893)
I remember when cars started to honk and beep when they were locked. It happened in the 90s. I'm not sure if they were aftermarket additions done by those people that must be heard. I haven't heard cars do it for years now. None of mine have.

Nowadays the people that must be heard just have obnoxiously loud engines instead. Looking forward to that being outlawed.

Also, what is with that stupid beeping that American cars make when the door is open? You need a beep to tell you the door is open? Seriously?

Re:Why do they still make car alarms? (2015) by xiconfjs on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @01:47AM (#25843255)
Mercedes-Benz has this feature for sure and it sucks. Usually it‘s only used by old people and dumbasses here in Germany.