Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by hugh3 on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @09:07PM
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I wasn't aware that Spirit had been incommunicado for a full year. Yep, time to give it up. We got great value out of it.
I must resist the temptation to anthropomorphize it. No, I don't feel sad for the poor rover stuck in a cold sandtrap on another planet, cruelly abandoned after years of faithful service. I do not feel sorry for it. I know that it's no more alive than the computer on which I'm typing this, that it's just a few random bits of electronics and some electric motors.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by PostOnce on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:22PM
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Well, it's solar panels look like bug wings, its stereo cameras certainly resemble two eyes, and it has arms on the front... of course it's going to be anthropomorphized.
Being that the rovers are both nice looking pieces of machinery and popular, I'm surprised they don't make more & better toys and models of them. I'd have a few sitting on my desk, if I could find any decent ones.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by hugh3 on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:29PM
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I'm excited for the Juno mission, launching in three months. In my opinion, it's the best-looking space probe that mankind has ever built. But it'll never be anthropomorphised.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by JonnieCache on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @08:04AM
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>I must resist the temptation to anthropomorphize it
Why? What harm can it do? You don't have to give up or compromise any part of your prized identity as an rationalist and an empiricist in order to indulge your biological imperatives to relate with the world as the squishy meatbag that your are.
To deny your social instincts when you yourself admit that to do so does not come naturally is also irrational. Embrace your emotional drives and know thyself! We haven't hit the singularity yet ;)
EDIT: also calling it a rover wasn't a great help was it.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by tetha on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @05:26AM
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Well some people argue that a certain degree of anthropomophization of a piece of work actually increases the efficiency of an engineer, because he feels attached to his piece of work.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by russell_h on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:36PM
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While I'm sure they're doing the right thing here, this is a little sad to me on a personal note. At the end of my ninth grade winter break (January, 2004) I spent all day following every bit of info I could find about Spirit's landing. The next day, back at school, I joined the school robotics club where I eventually learned C, began using Linux and decided to pursue Computer Science.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by younata on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @09:08PM
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Imagine, in about 20-30 years time, humans land on Mars. If Spirit still has its data stored to disk, and we can retrieve it, then that would mean that the most expensive rescue operation in human history was made to rescue... a robot that was designed to last 90 days on the Martian surface.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by ugh on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @12:02AM
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That will be one tense Rube Goldberg landing in 2012. A failure would be very disappointing. Phoenix gives at least some hope that NASA has landing with rocket motors on Mars under control.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by melling on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:25PM
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How close are the two rovers? A great follow up to the Google Lunar Challenge would be some sort of Mars Rover Challenge. Must make contact with Spirit then drive on to Viking, or some other human lander.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by hugh3 on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:33PM
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Roughly on opposite sides of the planet. If you've got a rover that can drive halfway around Mars, there's a lot more interesting things to look at than that, I'm sure.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by sliverstorm on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @12:40AM
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What are the odds we can talk them into releasing the communication frequency and protocol? If it's officially out of service, perhaps the commonwealth can take over the vigil.
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by ars on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @02:23PM
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It's not easy to broadcast to mars. They use the deep space network of satellite dishes for that. I doubt it's something an amateur can do. The frequency is the X band, but I couldn't find info on the protocol.
Also Opportunity is still active and they use the same protocol, and they probably won't want you messing with that :)
Re:NASA to abandon Spirit Mars Rover
by asadotzler on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @03:26AM
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It's not just the people that are short here, it's the time on the Deep Space Network. There are lots of projects competing for time and this one has simply, and rightly, (though sadly) fallen off the list.
I must resist the temptation to anthropomorphize it. No, I don't feel sad for the poor rover stuck in a cold sandtrap on another planet, cruelly abandoned after years of faithful service. I do not feel sorry for it. I know that it's no more alive than the computer on which I'm typing this, that it's just a few random bits of electronics and some electric motors.
And yet... sob
Being that the rovers are both nice looking pieces of machinery and popular, I'm surprised they don't make more & better toys and models of them. I'd have a few sitting on my desk, if I could find any decent ones.
Why? What harm can it do? You don't have to give up or compromise any part of your prized identity as an rationalist and an empiricist in order to indulge your biological imperatives to relate with the world as the squishy meatbag that your are.
To deny your social instincts when you yourself admit that to do so does not come naturally is also irrational. Embrace your emotional drives and know thyself! We haven't hit the singularity yet ;)
EDIT: also calling it a rover wasn't a great help was it.
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/Dec4_E-3-generation-rove...
MSL (Mars Science Laboratory) should launch late this year:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/mission/overview/
Watch it in 720p!
Phoenix mass: 350kg
Spirit/Opportunity mass: 550kg
MSL mass: 900kg
Also Opportunity is still active and they use the same protocol, and they probably won't want you messing with that :)