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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by the_jeremy on Monday January 18, 2021 @10:59AM (#25823004)
Only 2% of the incarcerated population has had a trial[0]. How can we even prove that there is a crime problem with that type of statistic?

0: https://github.com/MKorostoff/incarceration-in-real-numbers/...

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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by smegma2 on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:28PM (#25828485)
Do we have something to compare this number to? Don't we expect most crimes to not go to trial, if the convicted person agrees that they committed the crime?
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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by the_jeremy on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:10PM (#25829168)
France has 4% plea bargains[0], so 96% trials.

0: http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/olin_center/fellows_pape...

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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by alacombe on Tuesday January 19, 2021 @02:32PM (#25837729)
France trial are not "jury of your peer" trial. If I'm not mistaken, only the "Cour d'assises" has jurors. "Being judged by your peer" is not an enshrined Right in Europe.
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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by smegma2 on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:41PM (#25829385)
Cool, thanks for the paper. It looks interesting from the abstract.
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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by imgabe on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:39PM (#25828565)
Do they agree that they committed the crime or are they just making a tradeoff of a definite 5 years vs. a probable 25 years or something similar due to plea bargains?
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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by spaetzleesser on Monday January 18, 2021 @11:41PM (#25830066)
From what I am reading, especially in drug cases this the tradeoff a lot of people are making. Add to this being poor and lacking legal education this is a rational choice.
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Re:We are sending more foster kids to prison than to college by smegma2 on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:01PM (#25829108)
That's what I'm wondering, is there a way to measure how common this situation is? I'd be curious to see
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