Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by woutr_be on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:19AM
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I beg to differ. What is considered as normal in some cultures, can be considered offensive in other cultures. It's not because those people lack empathy.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by sneak on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:28AM
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What matters is who is doing the considering. Each friendship between people is its own "culture" in that sense; I don't generally do things that my friend would consider offensive, if they are actually my friend.
It's nothing to do with the wider culture or ethnic environment, or what third parties may or may not be offended by: I don't do things that I know would hurt my friends.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by woutr_be on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:34AM
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We could go into a whole debate about this. From my perspective, I don't think they're wrong, at the end of the day, I'm a foreigner in their country, and it's up to me to adjust my mindset. I don't think it's up to them to change their behavior because I find something offensive, that to them is not considered offensive.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by nradov on Monday January 18, 2021 @12:34PM
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You're describing a very superficial form of friendship. A true friend holds you accountable and tells you what you need to hear, even when it offends you.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by yowlingcat on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:48AM
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> I don't generally do things that my friend would consider offensive, if they are actually my friend.
> I don't do things that I know would hurt my friends.
These two statements seem like they could be in conflict with each other. Suppose your friend has a methamphetamine addiction, but they consider it offensive for you to bring it up. Do you not bring it up ever because it's offensive to them?
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by sneak on Monday January 18, 2021 @10:14AM
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No, of course not. Inaction/silence doesn't harm someone.
Furthermore, what someone who isn't me puts in their own body is none of my business.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by wjnc on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:37AM
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An interesting thing I experience in making friends later in life is mapping expectations about 'what friends do' (I guess I pester and expect to be pestered about a lot of personal things, the closer the friendship the more personal the teasing should be) to expectation 'new' friends have about the relationship.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by IndySun on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:23AM
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I thought about your human empathy v culture remark. It is true, empathy is a human trait, however, each culture and society have unique mores of their own. These idiosyncrasies will miss, or emphasize, various aspects of personality en masse, to some extent; evidently, there are different cultures. So maybe in this case, those belly pokers have been indoctrinated to be less empathetic towards what they see as overweight.
Re:Japanese people may have gained longevity by balancing th...
by yowlingcat on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:46AM
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Even so, that's contextual. What may be thought of as hurtful in one culture could be considered merely honest in another. Ignoring the things could get lost in cultural translation is an unfortunate way to miss the forest for the trees.
If people are doing things that are hurtful and they don't care to notice, they aren't your friends, they're just people you know.