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Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by roenxi on Monday January 18, 2021 @01:25AM (#25818822)
There is something wrong with that quote - the point of calling things a witch hunt is that witches don't exist and that the people finding 'witches' are harming a community who haven't done anything. The language has drifted away from its meaning there to the point where it doesn't mean anything.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by inglor_cz on Monday January 18, 2021 @03:59AM (#25819708)
This isn't absolutely literal. Witch-hunt was a word used to describe McCarthyism, for example. And Communists certainly existed and some of them were working for Stalin. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_espionage_in_the_United...).
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by roenxi on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:33AM (#25819946)
McCarthyism has a section on its wiki page called "Victims of McCartheyism" and mentions hundreds imprisoned and thousands of people losing jobs. It was hunting a soviet threat to America which didn't actually exist, and doing tremendous damage while doing so. The article you link on the actual spies is listing maybe tens of names.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by philwelch on Monday January 18, 2021 @05:50AM (#25820414)
And under that section are listed names like Dalton Trumbo, who was literally a member of the Communist Party USA, which was effectively a Soviet puppet organization. The Soviet threat absolutely existed, and has been validated by both US counterintelligence records that have been declassified since the Cold War and Soviet records that came to light as well.

None of this is meant to excuse or justify the excesses of McCarthyism, but rather to explain exactly what McCarthyism was. The Hollywood blacklist were, by and large, a group of people who were “deplatformed” for being enthusiastic supporters of Joseph Stalin. That’s not inherently far off from what a lot of people would favor today.

Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by alsetmusic on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:02AM (#25820882)
> The Hollywood blacklist were, by and large, a group of people who were “deplatformed” for being enthusiastic supporters of Joseph Stalin.

I think it’s more accurate to say that there were people enthusiastic about communism, rather than Stalin. Your statement is akin to stating that all republicans are enthusiastic about Trump. The Lincoln Project would suggest otherwise.

Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by philwelch on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:20AM (#25821022)
By that time, the international communist movement had been splintered between Stalinist and Trostskyite factions for a couple of decades. The CPUSA was not only Stalinist but actually funded and directed from Moscow.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by ncphil on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:46AM (#25821697)
... which begs the question: was Stalinism ever really a serious threat global capitalism? For me, part of the answer comes from looking into the reasons for the split between the Stalinists and Trotskyites, and how successful the US was in economically isolating the USSR and its allies.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by philwelch on Monday January 18, 2021 @08:53AM (#25821755)
As I stated, I'm not in favor of political repression, but Stalinism was an ideology that led directly to tens of millions of murders, so I'm inclined to take it seriously as a threat to basic human rights.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by roenxi on Monday January 18, 2021 @06:45AM (#25820757)
Accusing members of a Communist party of being Communists isn't fairly described as a witch hunt. That is just run of the mill political repression.
Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by philwelch on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:23AM (#25821046)
I would agree. That’s actually part of the point I’m making—unlike witches, communists actually exist.

I would further state that I’m, in general, opposed to political repression, even if the intent is to repress totalitarian ideologies that entail violence and mass murder such as communism.

Re:Parler's home page is back online, but app still not in s... by croon on Monday January 18, 2021 @06:06AM (#25820491)
> There is something wrong with that quote - the point of calling things a witch hunt is that witches don't exist and that the people finding 'witches' are harming a community who haven't done anything.

10 years ago I would've agreed with you. The problem is Trump called investigations "witch hunts" despite them proving the existence of dozens of witches.

The term in OP is used in this recent context, where witches do exist, despite the witches' protests.