Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by skeeter2020 on Sunday January 17, 2021 @09:46PM
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>> Yes, even your Tesla will become obsolete
not sure if this is tongue-in-cheek; your Tesla will become obsolete far sooner than your Honda civic will, and it's already 20 years old.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by Igelau on Sunday January 17, 2021 @10:50PM
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> a $60 T shirt will need to last me more than 20 to make it worth it.
And then there's the $120 T-shirt they endorse: https://www.buyforlife.com/products/33/outlier-ultra-fine-me...
That better last more than 40 years and be wholly responsible for saving my life +1 family member, wash/dry on any cycle I want, and never get chewed up by mice if I leave it on floor.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by s0rce on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:37PM
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I wear merino wool t-shirts to bike to work because they don't get smelly, however, they actually wear out much faster than cheap synthetic shirts. I usually buy them on clearance/sale for $30-40. $70-120 is nuts for a t-shit. I also don't understand how that can be buy it for life anyways. Its a cloth shirt, maybe its decently made but any synthetic fabric will last longer (still not forever).
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by eecc on Monday January 18, 2021 @02:51AM
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I have a couple sets of cotton t-shirts, about 5-8. Have had them for 5 years already, wear them daily and normally for 1, 2 Max before going back to the wash basket. Cost me perhaps 3€ a piece. I don’t see the need for these wonderfully expensive extravaganza...
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by s0rce on Monday January 18, 2021 @06:54PM
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As I said in my post, they don't get smelly so for me the $40 is worth it, they still last easily dozens of wears so the cost is minimal and I don't have deal with a sweaty smelly shirt in my bag at work. Also, I don't find a cotton shirt the most comfortable for active use.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by imtringued on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:40AM
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The estimated monthly cost for that T-shirt is higher than kitchen appliances listed on the site. A mixer is rated at $2.73 per month. A fridge at $7.64/month is less expensive than two of these T-shirts. That T-shirt is clearly overpriced.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by watwut on Monday January 18, 2021 @02:16AM
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Utility of merino is not in them being super ultra durable. It is more that it is warm even when wet when you sweating and they are comfortable when exercising/hiking/whatever in bad weather conditions.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by tinus_hn on Monday January 18, 2021 @06:18AM
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Also lightweight and doesn’t smell if worn multiple days
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by IgorPartola on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:14PM
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Yes. If I need a shirt that will be critical to what I’m doing, it might be worth it. Something to keep me warm in a critical situation. But I wouldn’t expect it to last me for life, just be high quality to not fail unexpectedly.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by rciorba on Monday January 18, 2021 @04:43AM
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> Boots. I can afford the boots I can afford today and I like them. But I am sure that 10 years from now I’ll be able to afford better ones.
If you can get 10 years out of a pair of boots it means they were good. I've had a pair of Caterpillar boots break after 2 years. I'm happy to see a review site with a strong focus on long term ownership.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by tpoacher on Monday January 18, 2021 @05:48AM
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I have to say, it's very surreal to see Terry Pratchett's "Sam Vimes Boots Theory of Socio-economic unfairness" play out for real in a HN thread!
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by krageon on Monday January 18, 2021 @06:19AM
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Buy actual army boots and take care of them. They'll last you that long, probably even longer.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by ghaff on Sunday January 17, 2021 @10:34PM
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>camping equipment
There's a lot of variation. Materials change. Stuff wears out. I have old gear and I have gear I've replaced because what I wanted wasn't available 10 years ago.
As for boot. I have custom boot that I've had for a couple decades (and have had repaired). But they're heavy and I don't wear them for everything.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by IgorPartola on Sunday January 17, 2021 @11:15PM
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I don’t camp enough so for me longevity is the more important one I guess, but mostly I just want things that will dial reliably and predictably.
Boots: I specifically mostly wear motorcycle boots and the tech on those is evolving quite fast.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by keenboy on Monday January 18, 2021 @11:25PM
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We probably shouldn't take "for life" any more literally than we do the "four hour workweek". It represents an idea. You might not want your boots to last forever and may in fact decide to replace them after 6 years. But if they were sufficiently well made, then you'll get more for them when you sell them and they'll last longer for the next owner if you sell or donate them.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by jim-jim-jim on Monday January 18, 2021 @01:18AM
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Pleated trousers are cool again though. If anything, flat fronted slim fit chinos are what's dated.
Re:Review broken products instead of new ones
by dusted on Monday January 18, 2021 @07:09AM
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There's a fair chance my 1999 ford mondeo v6 will still guzzle gas when the 2020 Teslas need their batteries replaced.
I _DO_ want an electric car, but I want it with a built in nuclear energy source that'll last at least 500k km before needing replacement.
Boots. I can afford the boots I can afford today and I like them. But I am sure that 10 years from now I’ll be able to afford better ones.
Coffee mugs. I currently sport a Yeti that will likely last me at least 50 years. But I also expect that better coffee mugs will come.
Smart watch and mobile phone and laptop. No matter what, Moore’s law will catch up with you. And developers dislike worrying about running software on old hardware.
Clothing. Yes I know, but I do to an extent care about how I look and showing up somewhere in pleated pants and a plaid suit today because you bought it 30 years ago and it’s still holding up isn’t something I can pull off.
Vehicles. Yes, even your Tesla will become obsolete. There will be one that will be a no brainer upgrade.
This isn’t to say that I want to buy junk. But a $6 T shirt lasts me about two years and a $60 T shirt will need to last me more than 20 to make it worth it. In the mean time my body might change, my tastes might change, and styles might change. Timeless styles are a thing but when you spill red wine on it and can’t get the stain out four years in, who is your next move?
Also emotional and not objective, FWIW.