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Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by sambeau on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @04:33PM (#2581522)
I have been using Chrome at work every day since it first came out and Safari at home since it first came out. I long for the day that Safari drops the extra search bar. I am forever typing into the wrong one.

Why have two search boxes when a regular expression can easily and accurately decipher what you are searching for?

Why does having two types of bar add anything but noise to lives of even the most advanced users (of which I include myself)?

The URL bar is a relic akin to the human appendix or tail-bone.

Begone.

Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by brianbreslin on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @04:37PM (#2581541)
I agree with your thoughts on the 2 bars being wasteful, but we shouldn't abandon the url bar entirely. Sure give it double function (search and direct url), but eliminating it entirely seems like jumping the gun.

this seems like a conniving way to drive more traffic to google.com so people like my parents will then type in the urls they already know into google's search box

Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by code_duck on Wednesday May 25, 2011 @01:02AM (#2582943)
If you type a couple words into the Safari URL bar, you are likely to get an error page. Type those into the Chrome bar, you get a search for the terms. Type a real URL into either one, and you go there. Which is preferable, a search or an error page? It's not conniving, it's convenient.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by Jach on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @05:38PM (#2581769)
I use Firefox, I love the two search bars. ctrl+L to get navigation, ctrl+K to get search. ctrl+up/down to change which site I want to search, which saves me a good chunk of time in the long run. I'm not opposed to hiding them though, as long as they're still there and show up when I type my keyboard commands. I don't think the https issue is too hard to work around either: just show a lock next to the tab's icon.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by panacea on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @05:08PM (#2581677)
I share your frustration (wrong word for such a minor discomfort, but anyway) with the two fields in Safari, and I'm often asking myself why Apple hasn't combined them.

I can think of two reasons:

For beginners having 'address is the square box on the left and search is the rounded box on the right' is the sort of simplification Apple likes to bake into their products.

The other is 'The bit of the internet you are looking at is in the square box, and the 3rd party app for search called Google is over there in that rounded box (where it should stay)'.

Both make sense to me if I put on my Apple mindreader hat... although I may be being a bit too cynical with my second reason.

Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by Lennie on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @06:15PM (#2581881)
Don't you people know why it is 2 fields ? One to send to the search engine provider and one to NOT send to the searchengine provider if you know exactly where you are going. That is why Mozilla didn't combine them and that is why Google did.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by panacea on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @06:34PM (#2581970)
At the risk of sounding a bit snarky, don't you know what an execute command is?

Type a search string into a 'universal' field and hit enter = perform a search.

Type a URL into a 'universal' field and hit enter = go to that URL.

Use some refined heuristics to determine the intention (ala the AwesomeBar in Firefox) and you've got the best of both worlds.

I don't use Firefox/Chrome daily, so I may be missing something, but I don't see why a dual address/search field needs to communicate with Google to be combined.

Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by LukeShu on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @10:24PM (#2582612)
A large part of the reason Firefox chose to keep them separate is for privacy. Everything you type into the search bar is sent to Google--even before you hit enter--for autocomplete purposes. The Firefox team felt that many privacy-conscious users trusted that the URL bar doesn't send info until they hit enter.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by Lennie on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @08:49PM (#2582408)
Do you know what discoverability is ? Really how do users know ? It has to be obvious or users won't use it/understand or even discover it.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by mcav on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @06:32PM (#2581967)
It doesn't have to go to the search engine provider if it's combined. Just regexp match a URL, and if it's a URL, go right there.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by Lennie on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @08:47PM (#2582405)
With autocompletion it will send every part while you type to the search-engine: p, po, por, porn, porns, pornsi, pornsit, pornsite, pornsite., pornsite.c ohhh, the user meant a URL, I'll stop sending it to the searchengine provider.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by iy56 on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @06:58PM (#2582044)
Opera allows you to search from the URL bar, and customize these searches. By default, you can type "w foo" to search wikipedia, "g bar" to search Google, etc. You can also very easily remove the search bar, which is separate by default.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by caf on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @08:29PM (#2582350)
"Quicksearches" in Firefox work exactly like that, too.
Re:Mozilla Labs: The Location Bar Has To Go by ChrisLTD on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @04:39PM (#2581545)
I agree that it's nice to have the URL bar double as the search bar. I've been patiently waiting for Apple to combine them in Safari so I don't have to remember two very different keyboard commands for getting to them.

Safari could also use the Chrome-style status bar overlay.