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Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by jjulius on Thursday January 14, 2021 @06:45PM (#25784742)
>Try turning off video...

I'm a musician and I'm incredibly confused by this point. Music instruction cannot possibly be effective without a visual component, regardless of whether it's a solo instruction or a group. An A/V method with a bit of latency is almost always going to be superior to audio-only.

Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by underyx on Thursday January 14, 2021 @06:48PM (#25784785)
With one group of friends I’ve been doing weekly calls for months now with audio through Mumble for audio, and video through Discord where everyone stays muted.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by johannes1234321 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:42PM (#25785337)
Are you doing instructions, including "your hand position isn't right" etc.? For that latency is tolerable, but different alten y for picture and audio is problematic.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by underyx on Friday January 15, 2021 @04:23AM (#25788717)
Sometimes, but only for drinking games and such.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by centimeter on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:42PM (#25785844)
As a non-musician, could you explain why?
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by jjulius on Thursday January 14, 2021 @09:01PM (#25786016)
How you place your hands, bend your wrists, stretch your fingers and generally hold your instrument can greatly impact how you play it. Depending on the instrument, a simple bend of a wrist can lead you to consistently play out of tune, or make it hard for you to hit a specific note.

Even just touching strings in different ways can produce wildly different results; think playing a harmonic note on a bass guitar, which is how you get such a low-sounding instrument to play a high-pitched note. How you blow air through your horn can greatly change the timbre and mood of your music.

There are a lot more examples, and they are all difficult to correct if you aren't able to see what the musican is doing.

Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by Bud on Friday January 15, 2021 @12:50AM (#25787477)
It's similarly essential for teaching voice.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by spoonjim on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:23PM (#25786617)
The exception here is at the MasterClass level. Fuck the world for autocorrecting that to camelcase.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by Igelau on Thursday January 14, 2021 @09:05PM (#25786043)
Physical matters of technique. Depending on the instrument or lack thereof: grip, placement of fingers, posture, breathing, lip embouchure, and more. Heck, you could even have it put together wrong or be holding it upside down. A remote teacher cannot easily convey this things in a timely manner without seeing the student.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by dialamac on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:39PM (#25785815)
> Music instruction cannot possibly be effective without a visual component

I suppose blind people will never be successful with music.

Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by jjulius on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:52PM (#25785934)
Please re-read my post and note that, at the beginning of the sentence you quoted, I specifically targeted the instruction of music. More specifically, you cannot help teach a blind violinist how to prevent themselves from continuously playing their notes flat without being able to see how they are playing.

Blind people are perfectly capable of learning to play music. Blind people and non-blind people alike can learn on their own, or seek out instruction. It is the latter that we are discussing here.

Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by spoonjim on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:24PM (#25786623)
Could a blind person be a music teacher?
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by jjulius on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:37PM (#25786711)
Totally, and I'm sure there have been many, but being able to touch and feel the placement of the musician's hands/fingers/etc. would be important. There are certainly things they could teach without that touch, just like non-blind people could teach a few things remotely sans video, but core areas of playing wouldn't get the right attention.
Re:Zoom improvements requested by music schools by cush on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:44PM (#25785865)
I think they were referring to remote music instruction....