We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers

Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by proverbialbunny on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:52PM (#25780492)

It sucks being that guy because everyone else ends up hating you.

Depending on the work environment it's not a stretch to see software engineers complaining to management, sometimes going as far to create rumors to get the jr data scientist fired.

So, no the grass is not greener. It's best to not be that person. This is why I go out of my way to prevent that scenario when I lead a team.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by urthor on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:16PM (#25781882)

Not really.

You just get seen as the product owner/project manager.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by proverbialbunny on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:51PM (#25782299)

That's a really good point.

I tend to be seen as a product lead / owner / stakeholder, so I feel like I'm being called out. lol

I think one difference is the software engineers see me as someone who is helping them by making their life easier. I'm not just throwing work at them blindly. I'm working with them. Also, they like it when I include them in the data science brainstorming sessions to solve difficult problems. I guess it's seen as exotic or something, but whatever the reason, they really love to be apart of it.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by rhizome on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:06PM (#25782531)

I think it's probably seen more as just being a decent boss.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by RobRivera on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:30PM (#25781129)

easy to ignore hate when youre pulling a 300k bonus at comp season and can jet to st. barts to go deep sea fishing and drink claws.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by proverbialbunny on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:52PM (#25781519)

Data scientists do not pull that kind of bonus. Today many of them get paid less than the data engineers do.

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by RobRivera on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:27PM (#25782015)

news to me, and welcome news to hear at that since I'm more in the data plumbing and packaging business, not algo publications.

my personal data points are from folks on buyside. trading margins have been downward trending for years

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Re:We don't need data scientists, we need data engineers by proverbialbunny on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:30PM (#25782053)

Quant research work isn't data science work which is probably where the mix up is.

On the quant side bonuses are distributed to the team.

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