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Re:Machine Learning: The Great Stagnation by JPKab on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:54AM (#25778711)
Just to be clear, there's a lot of researchers making money that aren't producing squat. There are many AI ethicists I admire, and there are many that can't code, can't produce, and just spend their time getting into arguments with people like Yann LeCunn, who actually have produced groundbreaking research.
Re:Machine Learning: The Great Stagnation by SilkStocking on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:33PM (#25779308)
LeCon's work wasn't groundbreaking; he was saved from oblivion only by Moore's Law. LeCun stood still doing the same thing for decades. But when wave after wave of faster hardware arrived he was finally declared successful.

So if you want to credit success to dumb luck, or to stubbornness, or insanity (as Einstein said: "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." then LeCon is your man. I don't know of any quote where LeCun says something to the effect of: "Well, I knew the hardware would speed up and then my neural net software would work exactly as I designed it to and manifest AI. So I waited twenty years."

IOW It wasn't the LeCunn's surfboard(his software) that handed him success, it was the wave(advancing hardware speeds):

https://www.wired.com/2017/04/race-make-ai-chips-everything-...

Re:Machine Learning: The Great Stagnation by BlueTemplar on Friday January 15, 2021 @05:58AM (#25789379)
> "Well, I knew the hardware would speed up and then my neural net software would work exactly as I designed it to and manifest AI. So I waited twenty years."

You're talking like we only discovered Moore's law now, instead of it being a good bet for the last half-century...

Re:Machine Learning: The Great Stagnation by jpfr on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:04PM (#25780672)
I hope calling him a “con” wasn’t intentional.

He speaks French after all...