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Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by joshxyz on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:03AM (#25773103)
Jesus fucking christ i thought it's just some users table but 56.7 terabytes you mofos that's some s3 egress bill!
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by qiqitori on Thursday January 14, 2021 @05:46AM (#25774835)
I kind of doubt I'd pay my AWS bill if AWS banned me.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by nindalf on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:16AM (#25774020)
I think they’ll avoid paying whatever Amazon charges. And I don’t think Amazon will pursue it either. “How about you just let this lawsuit go and we’ll forget about that massive bill you have to pay?”
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by scaryclam on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:49PM (#25779524)
Considering Amazon built a replacement for mongodb to essentially give them the finger, I'd say it could go either way. If AWS feels like it's worth setting a precident, they may well fight tooth and nail to make them payup.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by aljarry on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:15AM (#25774011)
90$ per TB
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by minot on Thursday January 14, 2021 @06:33AM (#25775141)
Is there still no easy straightforward way in $current_year to put an absolute spend cap of say USD 0, USD 5, or USD 10 per month on Amazon.com web services or Google Cloud Platform?

I’d think I’d like to prepay a fixed dollar amount like USD 200 IF I anticipate some major event but really this is problematic for students. I just want to use the free tier. Why is this so hard?

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by meibo on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:43AM (#25775683)
The common excuse is "billing is heavily distributed and every product does it differently, so it's impossible to implement limits", but yeah, you're probably not the target audience.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by mcv on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:30AM (#25776043)
A coworker runs a charity site (online monument for Market Garden), and because of its charity purpose, he got some free budget for Azure. He calculated that at the expected usage, that year budget was more than enough to last him a year. Until he activated some innocuous function, and suddenly it ate through his entire budget in a month, so he couldn't afford to stay on Azure anymore.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by ghaff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:37AM (#25776101)
Yes. A hard cost limit isn't a hard cost limit unless they start deleting resources like databases which has its own problems. One can imagine a semi-hard cost limit that only cuts off stateless services like EC2 and data egress but AWS apparently just doesn't care enough about courting customers like the GP to implement.

I agree that there is some financial risk to using AWS although my understanding is that they're pretty forgiving of surprise bills--at least the first time.

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by meibo on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:04AM (#25777100)
A googler recently commented here that, in order to forgive "bigger" bills, you really need to know someone to pull some heavy strings for you - and that it doesn't happen in many cases.

This taught me to be very very careful with this stuff, and to not bet on Google or Amazon being nice to me when I am bound to mess something up at some point - because with the complexity these services carry, it's no wonder people fall into cost traps all the time.

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by ghaff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:13AM (#25777229)
I do use AWS S3 for storage and it's very cheap for my needs. But I do periodically think about switching to a VPS (or to Backblaze which does let you set a hard cap).

I also help out a small non-profit newspaper mostly operated by students. We're going to need some storage for an archiving project and there's no way in hell I'm going to use AWS for that.

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by rsync on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:22PM (#25779149)
There are also cloud storage providers that do not charge for transfer or egress, etc.

There’s one in particular I’m thinking of…

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by imvictor on Friday January 15, 2021 @03:38AM (#25788433)
It's Wasabi S3 https://wasabi.com, and ridiculously cheap for storage.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by raxxorrax on Thursday January 14, 2021 @06:59AM (#25775348)
I don't think so. It would be great though to encourage dabbling.

I am glad that my customers and company pays the bills because they can fluctuate very noticeably.

For private use I still host my own server just because the costs are fixed an I know what I am getting.

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by rbanffy on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:58AM (#25776281)
It used to be possible to do that with Google App Engine at least.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by dexterdog on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:37AM (#25776103)
What's worse is that it costs something like $90 per TB of outbound bandwidth. That is absolute robbery and it is consistent across the cloud cartel.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:00AM (#25775363)
You're not a customer they want.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by redprince on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:58AM (#25775793)
I might be the future customer they would want, if I were able to learn with no risk of costly errors what their platform can do and how to operate it.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by aljarry on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:06AM (#25777121)
Free tier gives you a ton of usage across most of the services, but definitely not enough to fully host a side project. But e.g. you can use RDS (database hosting), S3, EC2, text to speech and do whatever you want in a small scale for a year. It's kind of enough to learn for certificates.

I forgot to remove NAT Gateway for a few weeks while learning bits and pieces of VPC usage and it ended up costing me 25$... what can you do.

Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by mgkimsal on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:04AM (#25775828)
You're probably still not that customer. You're still concerned about your own money, vs spending employers' money.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by m1gu3l on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:05AM (#25775399)
they have alerts that can email you if you are approaching a limit but i don't think you can tie that to some automated shutting down of your stuff (i might be wrong i haven't worked in aws heavily for about 2 years now... believe others with more recent exp if they comment otherwise) tbh i kind of get why it is like this, aws is a business and they are only looking for your money. responsibility for keeping your pants up at aws is on the admins.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli... by ghaff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @08:38AM (#25776113)
I think you can tie alerts to automated actions that you write although I've never done so myself. Of course, that requires anticipating what could happen and what you're OK with taking down.