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Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:59PM (#25772258)
> People who think being a hunter-gatherer sounds great should go try it, there's nothing stopping them from doing so.

Well, I mean, except property rights and the people that will defend them in most of the places in the planet suitable for human habitation.

Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by fogihujy on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:05AM (#25773116)
The Missus and I tried to plan going back to nature as a quarantine thought experiment. The conclusion was that it's simply not possible in most of Europe unless one manages to find a Sami spouse, and even then, most Sami seem to live fairly modern lives. As a Nordic citizen the Greenland option is there as well, but the situation is similar to the Sami one.

And the above presumes the existing population would accept you, and it's quite likely they won't.

Deciding to live off the land without special privileges enjoyed by native populations is simply not possible; regular financial transactions between you and society is a requirement, and it's pretty much impossible to raise children without access to modernities and without having the authorities go after you for child abuse.

Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by riffraff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:18AM (#25773619)
you can make a simpler experiment: try going a week with only food you can forage in nearby forests and fields, plus some meat you'd buy (you're not expected to be able to hunt).

I love eating wild weeds and berries, but it takes _a lot_ of time to get enough to fill yourself, and it's not a case that people have only eaten stuff like acorns only in times of famine.

This fact by itself made me question a lot of what's in "Sapiens".

Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by ClumsyPilot on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:14AM (#25775478)
a tropical island wull give results very different to like a siberean forest.

Also from what i gather most meat was aquired from trapping, rather than hunting

Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by winston_smith on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:23AM (#25772452)
Plenty of hunter gatherer tribes still around for the people crazy enough to want to join them
Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by lodovic on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:13AM (#25773573)
It is not likely any of them will gladly accept new members.
Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by winston_smith on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:31AM (#25773702)
Gaining acceptance by a tribe and finding ways to not die if you ever become disfavored seems like part of the whole hunter-gatherer package, don't you think?

They tend not to be very wealthy by modern standards. Maybe you could ingratiate yourself to them with them gifts of things that require modern manufacturing infrastructure.

Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by ClumsyPilot on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:12AM (#25775458)
Your argument literally defeats itself.

You were born into the tribe, and stayed there your entire life. Also there were no laws on hunting, setting traps, etc.

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Re:Ask HN: How to increase SWE salaries in Europe? by dang on Friday January 15, 2021 @01:38AM (#25787747)
We've banned this account for using HN primarily (exclusively? I skimmed your history and didn't see a single exception) for political and ideological battle. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that do it regardless of which side they're battling for.

You've also broken the site guidelines frequently with snark and attacks on other users. Not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html