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Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by peteretep on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @08:27PM (#25756763)
> Their service is not criminal in nature

They are getting kicked off AWS because of content that is absolutely criminal in nature, and their inability and inaction in moderating it.

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by oceanplexian on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @08:50PM (#25756959)
They provided ~90 example out of millions of posts and comments. I signed up to see what all the fuss was about and didn’t see any examples of violence whatsoever, other than some nutty conspiracy stuff and some vaguely violent language that wouldn’t be out of place on Vox or Mother Jones.

If a platform has ANY illegal content what standard is then acceptable? If you moderate 99.999% of your content is it reasonable for you to be blacklisted for the 0.001%? If someone found 90 examples of calls to violence on Twitter would that make it OK to deplatform them too?

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by peteretep on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @09:27PM (#25757221)
> If you moderate 99.999% of your content is it reasonable for you to be blacklisted for the 0.001%?

This sounds like you're trying to get us to pretend along that Parler had a moderation policy that was in any way effective, equally applied, or not just pandering to the crowd it was trying to entice.

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by BlueTemplar on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @09:25AM (#25762272)
Same kinds of criticism are regularly voiced at Facebook and Twitter too.

For instance:

https://thediplomat.com/2020/08/how-facebook-is-complicit-in...

(IMHO both Facebook and Twitter should be shut down. Size matters.)

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by mrtksn on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @10:16PM (#25757588)
> They provided ~90 example out of millions of posts and comments

This argument is problematic. In any criminal endeavor, what most of the criminals do isn’t illegal or even unusual.

When HSBC was laundering cartel money, they also served regular customers. They processed credit cards, gave loans and so on. 99.9999% legal activities and yet they were fined billions of dollars for fascinating money laundering operation of few murderous warlords.

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by ceilingcorner on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @11:30PM (#25758156)
If that’s your logic, then clearly Facebook and Twitter are 1,000x as guilty as Parler, considering that they have hosted extremely violent speech. The genocide in Myanmar, for instance.

This is about money and power, nothing else. Facebook is “too big to fail” so clearly it will never face any consequences, while Parler is a random little site that’s easy to pick on.

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by mrtksn on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @04:00PM (#25767901)
I do not object to the claim that FB/Twitter etc. are no better. I am simply pointing out that "arithmetically most of the things they did are harmless" is not a good argument. Most of the things Bin Laden did are benign, Him studying eating, partying, watching TV, taking a dump, playing a ball etc. probably accounts for %99.999 of his actions and being a horrible terrorist is just %0.001 of who he is, if we are looking for a benign/illegal ratio.

IMHO social media needs to be regulated, companies should not be able to simply cut you off from the rest of the public and you shouldn't be unaccountable for your actions and there must be ways for harm reduction. (if you tell/share a something, them maybe people affected by it should have right to equal exposure to challenge it. i.e. their POV could be attached to your post and everyone who interacted with your post receives a notification that the post was challenged)

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by idrios on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @09:00PM (#25757036)
Wouldn't the platform be protected by section 230? I imagine a large part of the reason Parler even exists is to abuse section 230, or get section 230 removed so they can then go after big tech, or call people hypocrites when only their service gets removed. But as it stands, isn't the service protected?
Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by peteretep on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @09:20PM (#25757165)
> The law allows for companies to engage in “good Samaritan” moderation of “objectionable” material without being treated like a publisher or speaker under the law.

My understanding is that the law simply says that doing _some_ moderation doesn't make you the publisher.

Re:How Silicon Valley destroyed Parler by vharuck on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @10:43PM (#25757751)
Section 230 protects against civil litigation, not criminal.